Originally posted by JakeTheBankYeah that one sucks, too.
Hmmmm.Looks like Mugen's Doomsday is a rip-off of Hulk, too. mmm
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There is another one being made that will be a lot better.
[EDIT] http://www.scruffydragon.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7946&st=0
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Because I can't swear, say racist things, or other vulgarity. Gay jokes are apparently acceptable though.Plus, truth and all. You know, can't fault someone for telling the truth
Lol...who said you can't do any of those and even if this was true, why would you resort to gay jokes?
Lol...that's not the truth Bieb.
Originally posted by KingD19
I didn't say he couldn't be hurt. I said he couldn't be permanently hurt. And Doomsday can be hurt as well, your point?This also depends on which version of Cain we're using.
Professor Hulk almost dropped him with a couple of well placed blows. Doomsday would do the same. He has been knocked out from what I remember as well. Cain isn't winning this fight imo. Both can physically be taken down but Doomsday is more ruthless imo.
Everyone keeps saying that fight was in Hulk's head. I'm not sure though as no ones posted the whole thing. But that's the only instance of a sufficiently powered Juggernaut going down from physical force. And he didn't have his forcefield there.
Every other time he's been KO'd it's been from non-physical means.
Originally posted by KingD19
Everyone keeps saying that fight was in Hulk's head. I'm not sure though as no ones posted the whole thing. But that's the only instance of a sufficiently powered Juggernaut going down from physical force. And he didn't have his forcefield there.Every other time he's been KO'd it's been from non-physical means.
The only thing that took place in Hulks head was Cain Marko trying to trick him into making Hulk think he was his father. Hulk seen behind this trick and dismantled him with a couple of well placed blows.
Onslaught also wrecked him and punched him past a couple of States. Juggernaut was unconscious and laid out when he hit the ground. He can be koed, it just take the right amount of force to do it.
Originally posted by KingD19
Onslaught also ripped the gem out of his chest even though it had been in space for a few years. And he wasn't KO'd, he was conscious, just hurt.
With a single punch. Even though the gem was in space, it doesn't take away from what happened on panel. The Exemplers was also able to hurt him as well.
Juggernaut was laid out when he hit the ground and only jumped up in fear of thinking about the Onslaught.
With his force field up, you might have an argument but he isn't invincible. Then when he does get hurt, people throw off that he was weakened when nothing shown or stated even approves this (King Hyperion). When he fight people with sufficient strength, his durability isn't as high as what people want it to be.
Originally posted by carver9
With his force field up, you might have an argument but he isn't invincible. Then when he does get hurt, people throw off that he was weakened when nothing shown or stated even approves this (King Hyperion). When he fight people with sufficient strength, his durability isn't as high as what people want it to be.
Right, but he's got more than enough durability when it comes to fighting the X-men. However, a lot of them are simply "humans" with a single power. No extra strength, or durability.
So in other words carver, I agree with you.
If we were to look at the Juggernauts better showings we would see him being unaffected by Thor's heavy hammer hits, to him being very focused during the 8th day shenanigans, where he barely felt anything. If there is the belief that Doomsday would be able to KO Cain, he would have to hit him with force several orders of magnitude greater than Thor's best Mjolnir hits. I'm not sure if I'm seeing this to be honest.
As for the Professor Hulk vs Cain KO. I can't be completely sure, but it seemed like Cain was hit by more than a physical hit. He appeared to have also suffered from a psychic backlash that Banner gave off, in order to wrestle control of his thoughts back from the brainwashing that he underwent at the hands of the Red Skull.