Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
There is no chance in hell Maul would beat Anakin (Vader). Obi-Wan managed to cut Mauls saber in half (which was a potential killing blow) and keep him on the run when he was a padawan. Anakin is WAYYYYYYYY above TPM Obi-Wan....lol Anakin is just below Yoda and Mace in the entire Jedi order in terms of saber combat (and arguably Obi-Wan but its not as cut and dry as with Yoda and Mace)Vader would tool Maul, then crap on his mangled corpse.
ABC Argument? Is that the best you can come up with?
Some people should have a look at RoDV or Purge:
Here some people Vader killed / defeated in his suit:
- Jedi Knights Siadem Forte and Iwo Kulka (he duelled both at once and beheaded them both with one strike)
- Jedi Master Roan Shryne
- Jedi Master Bol Chatak
- Jedi Knight Empatojayos Brand (nearly killed - forced to live in a lifesupport suit as seen in DE)
- Jedi Knight Koffi Arana
- Jedi Master Shadday Potkin (who tried to fight him with a cortosis blade)
- Jedi Master Ma'kis'shaalas
- Jedi Master An'ya Kuro (aka the Dark Woman)
- Jedi Padawan Dama Montalvo
- Jedi Master Ranik Solusar
- Jedi Knight Echuu Shen-Jon
- Jedi Knight Aidan Bok
Kill Count:
1 Padawan
6 Knights
6 Masters
He also wounded some people seriously (sometimes fighting 2-8 Jedi at once) and in addition to those people listed above (known Vader kills) he hunted down an unknown amount of Jedi in the Outer Rim and tooled some amounts of other armed people (bunch of Wookie warriors on Kashyyyk, several bounty hunters as well as Black Sun members).
Judging by this fact Vader just has to be faster than he appears in the OT (or at least a better lightsaber combatant) and don't forget that he (according to Lucas) had 80 % of Palpatine's force powers when Maul was just Sidious b*tch. Vader pretty much kicks Mauls sorry ass.
Originally posted by Antediluvian
ABC Argument? Is that the best you can come up with?
First off I took it back, cause i thought it was Sith Vader not Jedi Vader.
Secondly my point wasn't an A>B>C argument since first off Obi-Wan didn't beat him, he lost.
My point was that an Ataru trained Padawan Kenobi broke Mauls defense in a way that could have potentially killed him, Therefore it cant be that good of defense really. ROTS Vader could easily do the same, one handed and blindfolded...lol...well maybe not blind folded, but pretty damn easily.
However, this is ROTJ Vader so im doubtful that Vader could beat Maul in a lightsaber duel. IF Vader used the force though, Maul's pwn't.
Obi-wan uses Ataru in TPM, after the death of Qui-gon at the hands of Maul, Kenobi realised that Ataru didn't possess enough defence, which he believed led to Qui-gon's death, at this point Obi went to Form III Soresu, the defensive form. He practiced it for 10 years between TPM and AOTC, and by ROTS he was considered the Soresu master in the whole Jedi order. But Kenobi also had an extensive knowledge of Ataru as he had trained in it for the first 20sh years of him being a padawan, he would still utilize Ataru in his fights. (as he did in ROTS in his duels)
Originally posted by Borbarad
Some people should have a look at RoDV or Purge:Here some people Vader killed / defeated in his suit:
- Jedi Knights Siadem Forte and Iwo Kulka (he duelled both at once and beheaded them both with one strike)
- Jedi Master Roan Shryne
- Jedi Master Bol Chatak
- Jedi Knight Empatojayos Brand (nearly killed - forced to live in a lifesupport suit as seen in DE)
- Jedi Knight Koffi Arana
- Jedi Master Shadday Potkin (who tried to fight him with a cortosis blade)
- Jedi Master Ma'kis'shaalas
- Jedi Master An'ya Kuro (aka the Dark Woman)
- Jedi Padawan Dama Montalvo
- Jedi Master Ranik Solusar
- Jedi Knight Echuu Shen-Jon
- Jedi Knight Aidan BokKill Count:
1 Padawan
6 Knights
6 MastersHe also wounded some people seriously (sometimes fighting 2-8 Jedi at once) and in addition to those people listed above (known Vader kills) he hunted down an unknown amount of Jedi in the Outer Rim and tooled some amounts of other armed people (bunch of Wookie warriors on Kashyyyk, several bounty hunters as well as Black Sun members).
Originally posted by Borbarad
Some people should have a look at RoDV or Purge:Here some people Vader killed / defeated in his suit:
- Jedi Knights Siadem Forte and Iwo Kulka (he duelled both at once and beheaded them both with one strike)
- Jedi Master Roan Shryne
- Jedi Master Bol Chatak
- Jedi Knight Empatojayos Brand (nearly killed - forced to live in a lifesupport suit as seen in DE)
- Jedi Knight Koffi Arana
- Jedi Master Shadday Potkin (who tried to fight him with a cortosis blade)
- Jedi Master Ma'kis'shaalas
- Jedi Master An'ya Kuro (aka the Dark Woman)
- Jedi Padawan Dama Montalvo
- Jedi Master Ranik Solusar
- Jedi Knight Echuu Shen-Jon
- Jedi Knight Aidan BokKill Count:
1 Padawan
6 Knights
6 MastersHe also wounded some people seriously (sometimes fighting 2-8 Jedi at once) and in addition to those people listed above (known Vader kills) he hunted down an unknown amount of Jedi in the Outer Rim and tooled some amounts of other armed people (bunch of Wookie warriors on Kashyyyk, several bounty hunters as well as Black Sun members).
Judging by this fact Vader just has to be faster than he appears in the OT (or at least a better lightsaber combatant) and don't forget that he (according to Lucas) had 80 % of Palpatine's force powers when Maul was just Sidious b*tch. Vader pretty much kicks Mauls sorry ass.
Yep.