Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs ROTS Palpatine and ROTS Yoda

Yes, he did. But ROTS Palpatine is still extremely powerful. He's been collecting-and draining- artifacts and holocrons for a long time. Did he lose to Mace? Yes. For what reason though? Can we say for sure Revan would beat Mace, described as one of the greatest fighters the Jedi Order had ever produced in over twenty millenia? How can Palp's loss with Anakin's sudden arrival be luck? Luck doesn't exist in SW. Palp is described at that time as a 'great darkness in the force', an 'event horizon' and his powers are already prodigious...in my link, it describes him as the most powerful at the time of ROTS

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And let's not forget Palpatine might have lost on purpose. I mean... Anakin's arrival is just too well-timed.

And if Sidious can sense Anakin across the Galaxy, I'm positive he could have sensed him a block away.

Like I said: There's no such thing as luck. Or a coincidence. Not in Star Wars. KOTOR says it, the movies say it, the books say it

Im pretty sure that when ur fighting your not going to be able to "sense" people that well.

He did when he was fighting Yoda, apparently.

He'd just finished a battle with Yoda...and if Luke could sense Leia when he was fighting Kueller...

Big Meanies....Teaming up on the noob

Anyway, I would put Malak on par with Dooku. Revan would beat Yoda before Sidious could beat Malak (or vice versa) and come help Malak with the remaining opponent.

In more likelihood, Revan'd die very quickly

um, how? Revan was described to be the most powerful force user of his time, and in his time Jedi and Sith fought eachother all the time. He could probably PWN Sidious in a lightsaber duel, and is likely just as strong in the force. As for Yoda, he is probably slightly better at sabers. He can beat them both, but not together. Malak would be able to fight either one of the ROTS guys for a while, more than enough time for Revan to kill the other one.

So? Palp is described as the most powerful of all time and Yoda is described as the strongest foe the darkness had ever known. And Palp is smarter than that...he has more force techniques that will kill someone than you can shake a stake at. He'd just drain Revan of life...or use mortichro to stop his heart, or crush his windpipe. In the force, he far outranks Revan

This is ROTS Sidious.....I doubt he has that many techniques,or he would have used them on Yoda and Mace when he was fighting them. And yes, Yoda may have been the strongest foe the darkness ever faced, but only because of his knoledge and wisdom. In actual strenght, I doubt either ROTS people compares to Revan

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Palpatine was described powerful in what context? A time when there were not nearly as many battles, wars, or dark jedi. Revan was the strongest in a time when many jedi masters and dark jedi existed. Despite all this, he was described as the best force user and duelist of his time. He defeated Malak empowered by the Star Forge (a race and its civilization of force energy). Palpatine was put on his ass by Mace, and stalemated Yoda.

Revan and Malak win.

Actually it was 'of all time' and 'in history'....and no, Yoda was reknowned for his strength and his fury in face of darkness. 'Strongest'...and an official source calls Palp the Strongest Sith EVER

And Yoda had just as many ways to counter his techniques. Fight it if you want, but this is official word. And please, Revan's time had seen Sith extinction for a millenia until Kun and no living Jedi had fought a Sith mano a mano

The validity of that statement is still obscure.

The narrator describes Palps as the strongest, yet he details next to NOTHING about the ancient Sith Lords. For all we know, it could be the strongest Sith lord in the movies, not necessarily in the EU. It simply would not make sense if otherwise.

Actually, it's not, as it's C-Canon and thus in the EU continuity, I've proven that by posting the Holocron's stance.

And he doesn't detail next to nothing, he says what we actually know about them. This author worked with KJA to write about the Ancient Sith! He was using almost entirely what KJA wrote in the first Chronology and KJA CREATED the Ancients.

And the Chronology covers the movies AND the EU, don't try that. It's "In history."

He isn't even the strongest Sith Lord in the movies. Dooku could take him.

I have revised my opinion. Revan wipes the floor with one of them, while Malak enters a long duel with the otehr one. Then Revan comes to help Malak and together they PWN the ROTS noobie (jk, I acually love ROTS)

Which is why he's Dooku's MASTER and Dooku FEARS him and his power

You just lost a ton of credibility.

Do you ACTUALLY THINK that Sidious could even keep up with Dooku for a MINUTE in a lightsaber duel? I mean, he got tooled by Yoda when they were fighting with sabers, and was forced to resort to Force Powers.Sidious isn't that strong