Omega, Alpha, Beta, Epsilon-Delta levels

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
Official list of currently identified Omega-Level Mutants

Elixer
Iceman
Jean Grey
Rachel Grey
Mr. M
Franklin Richards
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

Alpha-Level Mutants

Apocalypse
his horseman
Angel (even before becoming Archangel)
Beast
Professor X
Magneto
Cyclops
Havok
The Living Monolith and basically the rest of the Twelve (minus the omegas already listed)

The one thing most people tend to forget is that "Omega level" was coined by Grant Morisson (in recent years). That being said Alpha mutants have always been the most powerful mutants in the marvel universe. So what grant has essentially done is turn all Alpha's into his Omega's the only difference comes from those that have reached the apex of their power. Besides if we're going to claim alpha, epsilon ect then are you trying to tell us that Apocalypse, Xavier and Magneto are at the bottom of the power scale? ha ridiculous! 😄 and Warren worthington has not nor will he ever be in the most powerful mutant category! 😉

And a bit of an update if you must know (since being Omega level is all the rage nowadays) Johnathan Starsmore "jono" for short formerly of generation x and uncanny x-men and Husk's x boyfriend is the newest addition to Grant Morissons newest catch phrase. 🙄

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
Official list of currently identified Omega-Level Mutants

Elixir
Iceman
Jean Grey
Rachel Grey
Mr. M
Franklin Richards
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

Those who have been labelled so since the phrase was coined with the current meaning and are thus officially Omega are:

Jean Grey
Iceman
Kid Omega (Quentin Quire)
Elixir (Josh Foley)
Mr M
Franklin Richards
& Vulcan

The only problem I have with Jono being Omega is that he gained power because of Apocalypse blood right? Correct me if Im wrong, please. I really dn't understand the real nature of his power, but it has always been a great criteria that being Omega is inborn, without help of second mutations, or in this case, with the help of someone else's genes.

true

so what is storm,& scarlet witch

Storm and Scarlet Witch are alpha level mutants until otherwise specified on panel by a legitimate source.

I don't know if I consider Pete Wisdom based solely on seeing a high energy output saying that Chamber is a potential omega as conclusive of him being an omega mutant.

someone said storm was omega. but how can storm and wanda only be alpha

Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements.

That is why Storm and Wanda aren't omega.

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
Official list of currently identified Omega-Level Mutants

Elixer
Iceman
Jean Grey
Rachel Grey
Mr. M
Franklin Richards
Quentin Quire
Vulcan

Alpha-Level Mutants

Apocalypse
his horseman
Angel (even before becoming Archangel)
Beast
Professor X
Magneto
Cyclops
Havok
The Living Monolith and basically the rest of the Twelve (minus the omegas already listed)

Jim Jaspers should DEFINITELY be on the Omega list. ✅

Omega's are defined by reaching the limit to their powers anyone can be an omega even a metamorph or someone with superspeed. Omegas can the weakest mutants but they have reached the peak of their powers. As far as that crap Icemayn gave about them being able to livebeyond physical existence that means any high order telepath would be an omega ie. Xaiver, Emma, Shadow King, or Exdous. Controlling matter doesn't mean your an omega or having immortality in that case Selene would be an Omega because sh can manpulate matter, she's immoratal, and she can live beyond physical existence. As far as the rest of the levels of power mutants have alpha means the mutant is near having unlimited amount of control of their power/and abundant energy. Beta levels are mutants who aren't trained well with their powers and have limited amounts of energy. Last is Epsilon-Delta mutants who's powers haven't being activated or a mutant who has a secondary power which isn't active ie. High order phsyics and telekinetic powers ex. Emma Frost when she levitated a pencil she was using.

Originally posted by ddsmrt
Omega's are defined by reaching the limit to their powers anyone can be an omega even a metamorph or someone with superspeed. Omegas can the weakest mutants but they have reached the peak of their powers. As far as that crap Icemayn gave about them being able to livebeyond physical existence that means any high order telepath would be an omega ie. Xaiver, Emma, Shadow King, or Exdous. Controlling matter doesn't mean your an omega or having immortality in that case Selene would be an Omega because sh can manpulate matter, she's immoratal, and she can live beyond physical existence. As far as the rest of the levels of power mutants have alpha means the mutant is near having unlimited amount of control of their power/and abundant energy. Beta levels are mutants who aren't trained well with their powers and have limited amounts of energy. Last is Epsilon-Delta mutants who's powers haven't being activated or a mutant who has a secondary power which isn't active ie. High order phsyics and telekinetic powers ex. Emma Frost when she levitated a pencil she was using.

Omega's are defined by reaching the limit to their powers anyone can be an omega even a metamorph or someone with superspeed. Omegas can the weakest mutants but they have reached the peak of their powers. As far as that crap Icemayn gave about them being able to livebeyond physical existence that means any high order telepath would be an omega ie. Xaiver, Emma, Shadow King, or Exdous. Controlling matter doesn't mean your an omega or having immortality in that case Selene would be an Omega because sh can manpulate matter, she's immoratal, and she can live beyond physical existence. As far as the rest of the levels of power mutants have alpha means the mutant is near having unlimited amount of control of their power/and abundant energy. Beta levels are mutants who aren't trained well with their powers and have limited amounts of energy. Last is Epsilon-Delta mutants who's powers haven't being activated or a mutant who has a secondary power which isn't active ie. High order phsyics and telekinetic powers ex. Emma Frost when she levitated a pencil she was using.

Omega's are BORN not MADE. Omega's are mutants who have unlimited potential and ARE CAPABLE of becoming the most powerful mutants in existence. Does that mean that they're the most powerful right now, no. But in the long run they are the most powerful.

There is no set 'rubric' to be an Omega. It's just whoever the writer wants.

So is Jean the most powerful of the Omega's then?

And do you think it will be revealed that Emma does have a latent telekinesis ability?

**FI**

has emma ever shown signs of teke???

Yeah she has 3 times...bordering 4-6 times..

So is Jean the most powerful of the Omega's then?

I think she currently is, because she's the only who's reached the highest potential isn't she?

I don't want Emma to get tk. Too much telepath tk combos already.

Originally posted by eternitygoddess
I think she currently is, because she's the only who's reached the highest potential isn't she?

I don't want Emma to get tk. Too much telepath tk combos already.

Right I've researched into it and yes she is.

Because: The highest peak of evolution is the Phoenix, and since Jean is the highest order a Phoenix avatar can be (White Phoenix), this makes her the most powerful omega.

**FI**

Actualy it's right i didn't say their was a rubic i think the know their isn't one. Omega level mutants have ulimited energy and power with the powers they have. Just because a mutant is an omega doesn't mean they'll ever be able to beat an alpha. Phoenix powers all being at omega level does make her the most powerful omega that is and will ever exist. And my definition of the rest of the levels are also correct. Where does anything say that a mutant must be born an omega the only thing that is stated is a mutant must at some point realize and be able to control their full potenial all omega means is to have potential to master powers. that is why Exiler is an omega he may never reach his full potential but their is a high chance he will. I think phoenix is beyond mutant labels to be honest she has reached her full potential and passed it

Originally posted by FireIncarnate
So is Jean the most powerful of the Omega's then?

No. With the Phoenix Force, she is, but then she shouldn't count as a mutant. Regular Jean is awfully powerful, but Nate Grey and technovirus free Cable are 10 or 20 times more powerful than her, that's why Sinister was always so interested in them, and why he wanted Jean and Scott to have a son. They are (or were) so powerful that their body can't even take their full power, and would have burned at some point. Regular Rachel should be more or less in their same level, but i guess Claremont was too busy giving hints about the stupid "child of the Phoenix and Jean" thing, which hopefully will be dismissed soon.
Franklin Richards is also more powerful, he actually is as powerful as a Celestial.

Vulcan vs. Phoenix

now that would be cool

i hope this happens in "the rise and fall of the shi'ar empire"

Rachel grey can bond with phoenix force right?