Omega, Alpha, Beta, Epsilon-Delta levels

Originally posted by ddsmrt
Actualy it's right i didn't say their was a rubic i think the know their isn't one. Omega level mutants have ulimited energy and power with the powers they have. Just because a mutant is an omega doesn't mean they'll ever be able to beat an alpha. Phoenix powers all being at omega level does make her the most powerful omega that is and will ever exist. And my definition of the rest of the levels are also correct. Where does anything say that a mutant must be born an omega the only thing that is stated is a mutant must at some point realize and be able to control their full potenial all omega means is to have potential to master powers. that is why Exiler is an omega he may never reach his full potential but their is a high chance he will. I think phoenix is beyond mutant labels to be honest she has reached her full potential and passed it

I think the one requirement for Omegas is that they muct transcend ther physical realm, not just complete control of their powers.

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The one requirement for being an Omega is to be called one on panel by a character with an authority in such matters, the Professor, Emma Frost, Beast, in narrative explanatory text, or in a handbook.

The only definiton we have for being an omega is unlimmited potential.

I know Apocolypse is empowered by celestial abilities but even as a mutant, is he not at Omega level?

Darwin and Legion have been added to the list of official omegas. A number of other mutants seem like strong candidates given the unlimited potential criteria and its implications from x-men forever - achieving godhood and becoming an abstract to replace the current ones - Wanda specially so.

I think the remainder of the ranks are even more nonsensical and inconsistant, mostly fan-made (although sometimes mentioned in comics and poorly defined) and not really based on power levels.

Originally posted by shinkuu_ryuken
I know Apocolypse is empowered by celestial abilities but even as a mutant, is he not at Omega level?

He's Alpha.

Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
There seems to be a little confusion over what are the requirements for being an Omega-level mutant.

* i think the confusion is always between:

(1) omega and omega-potential - because other people already consider omega-potentials to be omegas...
(2) omega-potential and alpha - because of the requirement of being an omega...
(3) alpha and beta - because some are confused how to really classify these two...

* just my two cents... hey, i might be confused too! 😛

Originally posted by peejayd
* i think the confusion is always between:

(1) omega and omega-potential - because other people already consider omega-potentials to be omegas...
(2) omega-potential and alpha - because of the requirement of being an omega...
(3) alpha and beta - because some are confused how to really classify these two...

* just my two cents... hey, i might be confused too! 😛

Omega speaks only of potentuial, not power level. They are born omega and might as well die as weaklings before their potential can be edveloped or spent their whole lifes as failures to alunch like iceman.

I find the others to be completelly meaningless. Is it power level? Is it the passive vs consciously activated nature of the power?

* how come they coined it as "omega-level" or "alpha-level" mutants? i always thought they imply it pertains to power levels of mutants...

Storm and Magneto are high Alphas, who are capable of beating omega level mutants.

Omega is power level and potential.

Iceman is Omega because of his powers and potential.

Vulcan, same thing.

Darwin, because he can literally adapt to anything.

And Storm is Omega. Magneto is Alpha.

* as far as i know, the only confirmed omega-level mutants are:

- Jean Grey
- Vulcan
- Rachel Summers
- Iceman
- Legion
- Elixir
- Franklin Richards

* Emma Frost defeating Rachel Summers in her own game proves to us that an omega-level mutant can be defeated by a lower level mutant if that mutant is more skilled in that particular battle...

i thought that to be considered an OLM, you had to be capable of massive matter/energy manipulation, vast psionic abilities, massive telekinetics or immortality.

Darwins' been confirmed Omega. He came back from the dead....by becoming energy, then rebuilding his body from nothing.

Storm has been proven Omega as well.

Quentin Quire's also omega.

And James Braddock, whose a reality Manipulator

Mr.M also Omega.

Big O, that's usually true, but if it's just something crazy powerful about you, there's a chance you're omega.

where are you getting your info from?

A mix of comics and wikia websites.

Originally posted by KingD19
Darwins' been confirmed Omega. He came back from the dead....by becoming energy, then rebuilding his body from nothing.

Storm has been proven Omega as well.

Quentin Quire's also omega.

And James Braddock, whose a reality Manipulator

Mr.M also Omega.

Big O, that's usually true, but if it's just something crazy powerful about you, there's a chance you're omega.

Storm has never been confirmed as an omega. Magneto has ahd more hints of being omega directed at him than she does, but never confirmed either. The others are right.

you cant trust wiki. anyone can put anything on there. but what do i know? i only read comics once in a while.

eh wiki is nomrally pretty relaible for comics. Sometimes it's not more most of the times marvel wiki is very accurate

you recommend it then? for Marvel?