Omega, Alpha, Beta, Epsilon-Delta levels

Started by KingD196 pages

Marvel wikia is awesome. Hasn't steered me wrong yet.

Originally posted by KingD19
Marvel wikia is awesome. Hasn't steered me wrong yet.

Yep. marvel wikia is pretty awesome.

But I haven't really encountered a statement stating that Storm is an omega level mutant. Just a potential.

and i'm addressing this to other people, not to the poster. Wikipedia may have wrong information, but most of it are actually true. So please don't say to the extent that it sounded like wikipedia is a complete false information.

Originally posted by KingD19

Storm has been proven Omega as well.


She was always an Alpha. Hudlin stated she was an Omega which still is nonsenses. She was always an omega, but Hudlin a hack and decided to spout garbage. However I yet to see another writer state she Omega. Also she can't even uses her powers to there fullest ability, because it damages her body, that alone would prevent her form be an omega.

Originally posted by KingD19
Marvel wikia is awesome. Hasn't steered me wrong yet.
Marvel Wikia is awesome for facts but character stats is all F'ed up you can go on a characters page you might notice low stats but dont pay attention to it but then you go on another characters page and this character is obviously weaker in every way than the last character but somehow have higher stats 🙁

Same thing with Marvel directory for the strength levels.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
She was always an Alpha. Hudlin stated she was an Omega which still is nonsenses. She was always an omega, but Hudlin a hack and decided to spout garbage. However I yet to see another writer state she Omega. Also she can't even uses her powers to there fullest ability, because it damages her body, that alone would prevent her form be an omega.

LOL, well here you go

Originally posted by HandOfFate
LOL, well here you go


Dam it hudlin, now others are saying she omega. I guess she is now omega dispite the fact she doesent fit the requirements. Her own power can kill her and paralyze her.

There are no actual requirements. Unlimited potential could be anything. In her case, unlimited potential to manipulate natural forces, which would indeed make her abstract level if ever developed. Besides, some possible futures have shown her as an elemental being beyond flesh.

I can accept Omega potential.

Originally posted by 753
There are no actual requirements. Unlimited potential could be anything. In her case, unlimited potential to manipulate natural forces, which would indeed make her abstract level if ever developed. Besides, some possible futures have shown her as an elemental being beyond flesh.

True, Marvel has not given a actual description of what OMEGA means....well other then saying they have an almost unlimited amount of power to manipulate matter or energy. Hell I'm not ever sure if they said that.

Originally posted by 753
There are no actual requirements. Unlimited potential could be anything. In her case, unlimited potential to manipulate natural forces, which would indeed make her abstract level if ever developed. Besides, some possible futures have shown her as an elemental being beyond flesh.

In one continuity, Storm was a living weather pattern with no body.

Xavier was a telepath who was so powerful his body couldn't handle it and he existed primarily on the astral plane.

Wolverine was berserk all the time because he had a Hulk life healing factor. Xavier actually had to guide him in battle.

Jubilee could level cities.

Rogue had to stay covered up all the time or she could absorb all life on the planet.

And Colossus had full command over his molecular structure and could enhance his strength and stuff.

Originally posted by KingD19
In one continuity, Storm was a living weather pattern with no body..

Now that's Omega.

Originally posted by 753
There are no actual requirements. Unlimited potential could be anything. In her case, unlimited potential to manipulate natural forces, which would indeed make her abstract level if ever developed. Besides, some possible futures have shown her as an elemental being beyond flesh.

She has a limit though, her body can only wistand so much power, meaning she she really shouldent be able to be omega.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
She has a limit though, her body can only wistand so much power, meaning she she really shouldent be able to be omega.

It been stated that Storm final transfomation will be into a being of elemental energy....thus the human body limits will be gone.

Besides, we have no idea what makes some mutants Omega and others not.

IMHO, it all depends on the writer....Claremont had Storm controlling the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease. The only mutants to beat that feat are Phoenix users, Franklin Richards, Jasper and Scarlet Witch.

Don't forget about Jamie Braddock.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
It been stated that Storm final transfomation will be into a being of elemental energy....thus the human body limits will be gone.

Besides, we have no idea what makes some mutants Omega and others not.

IMHO, it all depends on the writer....Claremont had Storm controlling the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease. The only mutants to beat that feat are Phoenix users, Franklin Richards, Jasper and Scarlet Witch.

aside from that, she save the whole world , beat The Trion and house Eternity in which only she and Dr. Strange was capable. all members of fantastic Four,BP and Silver Surfer was around.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
It been stated that Storm final transfomation will be into a being of elemental energy....thus the human body limits will be gone.

Besides, we have no idea what makes some mutants Omega and others not.

IMHO, it all depends on the writer....Claremont had Storm controlling the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease. The only mutants to beat that feat are Phoenix users, Franklin Richards, Jasper and Scarlet Witch.


prove this, because what been shown in alternate realities and what been shown on pannel in 616, is that when she uses to much power it causes damage to ehr body, she can even loses control. In x-men forever which is not cannon I know, she was paralyzed from over using her powers. her body can't contain the amount of power she posses, which in it self would make her not omega.

That was back way in the day when they did factor in real world as much. She sinces then has never displayed that kinda power. Also Claremont, doing a run right now, what would have happen if he stay writing type of thing, and storms shown nothing of the sort of power. One time events are also not the norm, nor are they even usable in many cases. in fact that could easily been written off has hyperbole, or simply PIS.

Also Wolverine has display complete control over his healing factor. He did this when Cable son Tylor tried to bond adamatium back to Wolverine bones, and it was working untill, Wolverine (heard cannon ball I believe) and he through force of will used his healing factor to push out the adamatium. If thats not completely control, i dont know what is. Because that was ever part of his body.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
It been stated that Storm final transfomation will be into a being of elemental energy....thus the human body limits will be gone.

Besides, we have no idea what makes some mutants Omega and others not.

IMHO, it all depends on the writer....Claremont had Storm controlling the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease. The only mutants to beat that feat are Phoenix users, Franklin Richards, Jasper and Scarlet Witch.

No, we've ponly seen alternative futures in which she becomes an elemental and this doesn't make her omega either.

We have a very clear idea, on panel statements. The essential idea is limitless potential.

No, he had her drawing upon the energy of the galactic core, nowhere does it say she was manipulating the entirety of its energies. All we know is hat she had a single abnormal high end feat of reach and energy harvesting. Not at all beyond the high herald level for energy manipulators. Her averag puts her at high meta or low herald.

And hyperstorm, godcable, shaman nate grey, megan, so on and so forth. Pretty much anyone high herald and above could replicate that.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
prove this, because what been shown in alternate realities and what been shown on pannel in 616, is that when she uses to much power it causes damage to ehr body, she can even loses control. In x-men forever which is not cannon I know, she was paralyzed from over using her powers. her body can't contain the amount of power she posses, which in it self would make her not omega.

Stop.

You’re arguing something that really doesn’t have too. Everything you just said is pointless. You can't say someone is not an Omega mutant because we really don't know what makes a mutant an Omega.

Marvel says she a potential Omega, so she a potential Omega.