The Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design

Started by lord xyz51 pages

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Let's say I alter a pile of Lego's into different combinations I could get different outcomes, but I can't get what's not in the pile.
The different outcomes are called breeds, they are still part of the same species.

I did.

well lets look at it from my angle.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So a cell in my arm can mutate and that is evolution? How would that get to the next generation? 🙄
There are TWO questions here. You do know that right?
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It seems you guy's do not understand what a mutation does, a mutation Alters, Delete's, Or moves information, It does not create something brand new from scratch.

Only "Germline" mutations can be passed down, and a mutation can only alter what's already there.

this is ONE answer. You do know that right? Now, that didn't even answer either question. It helps to understand english. 😉

Originally posted by PVS
right, but you are mixing concepts and forming failed analogies. for instance, we share many characteristics with birds. birds have a latant genetic code for teeth while our fingernails are made of the same material as feathers. its all the same matter, rearranged, recombined, moved around etc to form something else.

sure, that doesnt prove evolution, but im just pointing out that evolution is not the creation of something new, but rather an enhcanced and adapted version of a predecessor...but on a cellular/genetic level very similar. take for instance the uncanny closeness between human and chimpanzee dna. just a few alterations and look at the difference

PVS, don't try. He won't listen. (See pg 12 for my impression of him)

I'm the basher in this, Shaky the calm one. Now you can join in if you like, but I doubt Blue'll even know you're here.

Originally posted by PVS
right, but you are mixing concepts and forming failed analogies. for instance, we share many characteristics with birds. birds have a latant genetic code for teeth while our fingernails are made of the same material as feathers. its all the same matter, rearranged, recombined, moved around etc to form something else.

sure, that doesnt prove evolution, but im just pointing out that evolution is not the creation of something new, but rather an enhcanced and adapted version of a predecessor...but on a cellular/genetic level very similar. take for instance the uncanny closeness between human and chimpanzee dna. just a few alterations and look at the difference

And again these similarities don't prove a connection(Read what I posted on homology) In order for something to be an enhanced something new must be added, If I wanted to enhance something I would have to insert something that it doesn't have already, again where is the proof mutations do that?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And again these similarities don't prove a connection(Read what I posted on homology) In order for something to be an enhanced something new must be added, If I wanted to enhance something I would have to insert something that it doesn't have already, again where is the proof mutations do that?
homology?

homo=one
ology=study

the study of one? 🤨

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Let's say I alter a pile of Lego's into different combinations I could get different outcomes, but I can't get what's not in the pile.
The different outcomes are called breeds, they are still part of the same species.

I did.

No you did not. There is only one cell that can mutate and change an offspring. Do you know what cell that is?

Originally posted by lord xyz
homology?

homo=one
ology=study

the study of one? 🤨

You just get worst with every post.

Originally posted by lord xyz
well lets look at it from my angle.

There are TWO questions here. You do know that right? this is ONE answer. You do know that right? Now, that didn't even answer either question. It helps to understand english. 😉

And I answerd them, these are two seperate answers moron.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
It seems you guy's do not understand what a mutation does, a mutation Alters, Delete's, Or moves information, It does not create something brand new from scratch.

Only "Germline" mutations can be passed down, and a mutation can only alter what's already there.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No you did not. There is only one cell that can mutate and change an offspring. Do you know what cell that is?
Spoiler:
ovum
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
And again these similarities don't prove a connection(Read what I posted on homology) In order for something to be an enhanced something new must be added, If I wanted to enhance something I would have to insert something that it doesn't have already, again where is the proof mutations do that?

you are just inventing your own logic and definition to disprove what i said.
btw, i clearly stated that what i said proved nothing, but only served to disprove your flawed lego analogy.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No you did not. There is only one cell that can mutate and change an offspring. Do you know what cell that is?

Do you know what a pletoric mutation is?

Originally posted by PVS
you are just inventing your own logic and definition to disprove what i said.
btw, i clearly stated that what i said proved nothing, but only served to disprove your flawed lego analogy.

Because you do not understand something makes me wrong; what flawed logic. I ask you when do mutations create new genetic information you don't even respond.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Spoiler:
ovum

Close enough, the fertilized egg. Now I'm so frustrated, I forgot my point. 😆 When I remember it, I'll post again. 😆

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Do you know what a pletoric mutation is?
Do you?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Close enough, the fertilized egg. Now I'm so frustrated, I forgot my point. 😆 When I remember it, I'll post again. 😆
I was gonna say sperm aswell, but hey, worth a try.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Close enough, the fertilized egg. Now I'm so frustrated, I forgot my point. 😆 When I remember it, I'll post again. 😆

generally mutations that effects the reproductive organs , can be passed down and thus are "Germline" mutations.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Do you know what a pletoric mutation is?

Because you do not understand something makes me wrong; what flawed logic. I ask you when do mutations create new genetic information you don't even respond.

WTF? No, I'm not even going to point it out.

Originally posted by lord xyz
WTF? No, I'm not even going to point it out.

I was talking shakyamunsion, not you idiot.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
generally mutations that effects the reproductive organs , can be passed down and thus are "Germline" mutations.
an egg cell is not a germ.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I was talking shakyamunsion, not you idiot.
Yes, and you were being stupid as usual, but sinse it was obvious how stupid you were being, I decided not to point it out.

Originally posted by lord xyz
an egg cell is not a germ.

hysterical

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germline

You get worst with every post.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
hysterical

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germline

You get worst with every post.

'I get worst'?

btw, that was a joke. I think anyone with brins would know that.

Originally posted by lord xyz
'I get worst'?

btw, that was a joke. I think anyone with brins would know that.

Right, I mean clearly looking at the text you can tell 🙄