The Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design

These nutters believe in the six thousand year old earth with no dinosaurs.

Originally posted by Mindship
As I mentioned, what else could be keeping this thread going? (so much for my attempt at humor bag ).

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i thought it was funny ms!

or . . . at least i think no one else think its funny is funny . . . LOL

Originally posted by Aziz!
These nutters believe in the six thousand year old earth with no dinosaurs.

Originally posted by Aziz!
There is no god.

Everything is random. Luckily the universe won the one in a trillion chance of coming to life.

Everything is not random. That's the damn problem with people who don't understand Evolution. Natural selection is not random, the mutation is. If the mutation is detrimental, then the damn thing dies off. If it's beneficial, the thing lives. that simple. Not random.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Everything is not random. That's the damn problem with people who don't understand Evolution. Natural selection is not random, the mutation is. If the mutation is detrimental, then the damn thing dies off. If it's beneficial, the thing lives. that simple. Not random.

How is it not random, a trait that's beneficial for a period can turn to a unbeneficial trait, Natural selection is random unless you meant the effect natural selection has on an organism can be determined.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How is it not random, a trait that's beneficial for a period can turn to a unbeneficial trait, Natural selection is random unless you ment the effect natural selection has on an organism can be determined

That's not random, that's a change of eviroment. The survival of the fittest is not a random rule. Think about what the hell you are saying. The mutation is random. Natural selection is not.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
That's not random, that's a change of eviroment. The survival of the fittest is not a random rule. Think about what the hell you are saying. The mutation is random. Natural selection is not.

Calm down, and change of environment is random because Like climate, elevation, no one can predict when those things change.Heck you can't even predict if the species will survive.

Did I say the change of the enviroment was not random? And it is only random sometimes. If a group migrates, it's not random, if the weather of the planet shifts, that's random.

Natural selection is not random, the mutation is. Any (real) scientist will tell you the same.

And I apologize if I'm a little tense, Im on my laptop taking a dump.

can you say 'environmental variation' Blue?

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Did I say the change of the enviroment was not random? And it is only random sometimes.

If it's random sometimes then it's random.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
If a group migrates, it's not random, if the weather of the planet shifts, that's random.

Migration isn't random that's true,but the climate in the location is because at any given time it can change. I don't see how natural selection is not random when things change so easily, what's stopping an organism from mutating randomly and having a new migration path.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Did I say the change of the enviroment was not random? And it is

And I apologize if I'm a little tense, Im on my laptop taking a dump.

It's okay.

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Originally posted by Mindship
There is a God.
What the hell else keeps this thread going??

Stubbornness? 😄

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If it's random sometimes then it's random.

Migration isn't random that's true,but the climate in the location is because at any given time it can change. I don't see how natural selection is not random when things change so easily, what's stopping an organism from mutating randomly and having a new migration path.

Yea, if it's random sometimes, then it's random sometimes, not random all the time. That kind of generalization gets you IDists in trouble. Everything is in the small details.

And Natural Selection is not random. How is one animal killing another because it's too visible/slow/fat/sick/blind/etc random??

Originally posted by Wonderer_temp
Why do people call it Intelligent design and not Stupid design? Because there is the assumption that it is Intelligent.

Does it really matter? Isn't the more important thing rather what we as humans can do to live better, more compassionate, peaceful lives, regardless of what the 'Universe' is?

You cannot wrap something as big as the Universe into a theory anyway, and if we do it's not like the universe is gonna notice our interpretations.

Doesn't look like anyone noticed what I said. Well, just maybe it proves that this 'Design' is indeed 'stupid'. So it's SD not ID.

Seriously now. All of what exists, the universe, nature, existence - all of this is God - there's nothing seperate from nature, no creator, but only creation fueling itself - that is God - the mystery of being.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak

And Natural Selection is not random. How is one animal killing another because it's too visible/slow/fat/sick/blind/etc random??

Because it's not guaranteed, that the species will be killed.

Natural selection is as random as the fact that the Sun rises every morning.

Selection is determined by cause and effect - what you put in you'll get out.

Originally posted by Wonderer
Doesn't look like anyone noticed what I said. Well, just maybe it proves that this 'Design' is indeed 'stupid'. So it's SD not ID.

Seriously now. All of what exists, the universe, nature, existence - all of this is God - there's nothing seperate from nature, no creator, but only creation fueling itself - that is God - the mystery of being.

That's what I've been saying the designer is nature itself and so is the design.

Originally posted by Wonderer
Natural selection is as random as the fact that the Sun rises every morning.

Selection is determined by cause and effect - what you put in you'll get out.

So the cause can be random but the effect can be determined, make sense. takes for the explanation.

Oh My Fu€king God, I cannot believe Blue just said Nature is the intelligence behind it. 😆 I guess that settles it, from the creationist's/IDer's mouth itself, evolution [b]IS/b] Intelligent Design. I guess we can now call this officially, 'case closed'. Don't you think?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Oh My Fu€king God, I cannot believe Blue just said Nature is the intelligence behind it. 😆 I guess that settles it, from the creationist's/IDer's mouth itself, evolution [b]IS/b] Intelligent Design. I guess we can now call this officially, 'case closed'. Don't you think?

What an idiot you are.