SuperBoy Prime Vs. Thanos · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because just throwing an insane number like 1,000 when its never been done is ridiculous imo.
Has the Runner hit anyone 1,000 times in a second? If you havent seen it why would you assume its possible?
I go by feats and what I see on panel.

Great! So since we've seen Thanos get single shotted miles away by Thor, then Prime should be playing planetary volleyball with Thanos body with ease and have easy control over the battle. 🙂 Or he could just throw him in deep space to be helpless before Thanos can even react.

It should be even easier with the massive speed advantage that Sbp enjoys over both characters. 🙂

The Great Galen Restricted

Oh i thought it was SBP...,if its current then 10/10 for prime.

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Originally posted by The Great Galen
Are you still with the containment block thing that u actually believe would work on PC supes. As it has been stated before, the only reason ti worked on Thor with the PG for a short bit was because he wasnt in his right mind....besdies with someone as fast as prime how do u assume Thanos could even react to someone who blitz all the flashes at once.
If we break down the stats thanos is dealing with someone much faster,phsycially stronger and just about as durable. In fact durability will probably be the only thing that keeps Thanos in this fight for awhile...thats about it. SBP 9/10

When didi it say that? When did it say that it only worked on Thor because he was confused?

They attacked his mind when he was in there and he turned the tables. He wasnt mad. It worked because he wasnt powerful enough yet to free himself but in a few hours he would be. Thanos also strengthened the field through other tech to buy himself more time.

I saw many characters react to Prime who dont possess superspeed. How many times has he used his superspeed in combat against anyone other than the Flash?

Prove he is stronger. He isnt as durable either. Mindrape is an easy win imo as well.

In which scenario do you give Prime the 9 of 10?

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Oh i thought it was SBP...,if its current then 10/10 for prime.

It is current SBP

Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize the Prime that took on the Monarch isnt in this thread dont you?
That was guardian amped Prime who was much more powerful than when at his core capabilities.
His punches have never retconned reality imo. He has broken out of prisons thereby retconning reality but his mere punches dont retcon reality.
He didnt kill the Am all he did was bfr him after he took a galaxy destroying blast. You seem to be pumping out lots of misinformation imo.
Yes he did fight 3 flashes and he lost. They imprisoned him. He broke out of this prison but he didnt manage to defeat these 3 flashes. He fears the flashes imo.
Annataz and Prime defeated Mxy because she took away his magical powers and broke his will. Again misinformation and lack of context imo.
This is current Prime who doesnt have the guardian powerup so all those feats are moot points. 🙂

The SMP who killed monarch is the SMP in this thread, forum rules state it is always current version of the character unless stated so, so yes all new showings are taken into account.

He speed blitzed 3 flashes while on earth, it wasn't until the end of the issue when 3 flashes took him to the speed zone. And even then after four years of being with no yellow sunlight to deplete his cell reserves, he still managed to defeat Bart and break out.

It was bart who was afraid of SMP when he was coming back, or are you going to tell me that when bart came to warn the others that wasn't a face of fear?

SMP defeated mxy, not annataz, he punched into the 5th dimension and pulled him out, it wasn't until later that he contracted annataz, and even then she refused to help him.

Yes this is current prime, who killed the monarch, survived the big bang at point blank, with nothing more then half his costume being tattered up.

In case you haven't kept up with prime, hes alive and well, and survived the big bang with nothing more then a few scratches, hes currently in the 31st century. And it is not stated if he lost the guardians powers, and it is also not stated if he gained monarchs powers.

So yeah, stop lying.

P.S. In case you are unfamiliar with time trapper, hes a DC villian, and old one in fact, and no he didnt revive prime, all time trapper did was move him to the 31st century, Time trapper has never been shown to revive people.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mindrape is an easy win imo as well.

How did you come to this conclusion?

Mindrape hasn't been used/shown to be effective or ineffective on Superboy Prime.

Should we all assume that kryptonian spit is deadly to Thanos?

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Originally posted by Estacado
Off course Thor could easily go up against Superman,Power Girl,Sentinel,John Stewart ,Kilowog ,3 Guardians a bunch of other lanterns and sinestro corp members at the same time...... 🙄

Ok Ill give you my opinion here and the obvious differences with these two stories.

There was a massive battle underway. So it wasnt a concentrated attack by any means. Prime was hitting random people. They all werent opposing him at once. When one guardian grabbed him Prime was done.

Sure he hit the other characters but did no significant damage.

Thor was taking on a group gathered to stop him. Thor didnt turn rogue in the middle of a battle and hitting people at random.

There you go. Two entirely different scenarios imo.

The Great Galen Restricted

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok Ill give you my opinion here and the obvious differences with these two stories.
There was a massive battle underway. So it wasnt a concentrated attack by any means. Prime was hitting random people. They all werent opposing him at once. When one guardian grabbed him Prime was done.
Sure he hit the other characters but did no significant damage.
Thor was taking on a group gathered to stop him. Thor didnt turn rogue in the middle of a battle and hitting people at random.
There you go. Two entirely different scenarios imo.

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
When didi it say that? When did it say that it only worked on Thor because he was confused?
They attacked his mind when he was in there and he turned the tables. He wasnt mad. It worked because he wasnt powerful enough yet to free himself but in a few hours he would be. Thanos also strengthened the field through other tech to buy himself more time.
I saw many characters react to Prime who dont possess superspeed. How many times has he used his superspeed in combat against anyone other than the Flash?
Prove he is stronger. He isnt as durable either. Mindrape is an easy win imo as well.
In which scenario do you give Prime the 9 of 10?

speed
1. speed blitzes three flashes simultaniously
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg

2. Moves all the planets of the entire universe, to reallign the center of it, so fast that no one notices, and even the inhabitants of the planets do not notice or are harmed.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg

3. Pre crisis superman impressed by primes speed as a boy
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_07.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_08.jpg

4. Pre crisis superman says prime is fast
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_13.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_14.jpg

5. The only way flash managed to beat a weakened superboy prime back to the main DC universe from the speed force, was that he had to absorb the entire speed force.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/flash6oroboros031rc0af8.jpg

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by Avlon
How did you come to this conclusion?
Mindrape hasn't been used/shown to be effective or ineffective on Superboy Prime.
Should we all assume that kryptonian spit is deadly to Thanos?

SMP has never shown weakness to psionics, or mind attacks, in any way, shape, or form.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
It is current SBP
The SMP who killed monarch is the SMP in this thread, forum rules state it is always current version of the character unless stated so, so yes all new showings are taken into account.
He speed blitzed 3 flashes while on earth, it wasn't until the end of the issue when 3 flashes took him to the speed zone. And even then after four years of being with no yellow sunlight to deplete his cell reserves, he still managed to defeat Bart and break out.
It was bart who was afraid of SMP when he was coming back, or are you going to tell me that when bart came to warn the others that wasn't a face of fear?
SMP defeated mxy, not annataz, he punched into the 5th dimension and pulled him out, it wasn't until later that he contracted annataz, and even then she refused to help him.
Yes this is current prime, who killed the monarch, survived the big bang at point blank, with nothing more then half his costume being tattered up.
In case you haven't kept up with prime, hes alive and well, and survived the big bang with nothing more then a few scratches, hes currently in the 31st century. And it is not stated if he lost the guardians powers, and it is also not stated if he gained monarchs powers.
So yeah, stop lying.
P.S. In case you are unfamiliar with time trapper, hes a DC villian, and old one in fact, and no he didnt revive prime, all time trapper did was move him to the 31st century, Time trapper has never been shown to revive people.

This thread was created in 2006.

We cant take into consideration the guardian amp because it was only temporary. it wasnt current when this thread was created and isnt current now. So unless otherwise specified its out.

He managed to break out due to his suit. The suit fed him power it isnt like he beat him powerless or anything.

The mxy feat has been explained. If you want to post misinformation it only hurts you imo.

He lost the guardians powerup in the middle of his battle with Monarch. It was explained on panel there sparky.

Time trapper might have removed him from the timestream before the blast consumed him. I never once said that he revived him. 🙂

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Originally posted by Avlon
Great! So since we've seen Thanos get single shotted miles away by Thor, then Prime should be playing planetary volleyball with Thanos body with ease and have easy control over the battle. 🙂 Or he could just throw him in deep space to be helpless before Thanos can even react.
It should be even easier with the massive speed advantage that Sbp enjoys over both characters. 🙂

What Thor feat are you referring to exactly?

Do you have any proof or any canon scans where someone just dominates Thanos in this manner?

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Originally posted by Board Walker
[b]speed
1. speed blitzes three flashes simultaniously
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/RealVSClone8.jpg
2. Moves all the planets of the entire universe, to reallign the center of it, so fast that no one notices, and even the inhabitants of the planets do not notice or are harmed.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/planetmovehigh2.jpg
3. Pre crisis superman impressed by primes speed as a boy
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_07.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_08.jpg
4. Pre crisis superman says prime is fast
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_12.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_13.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_14.jpg
5. The only way flash managed to beat a weakened superboy prime back to the main DC universe from the speed force, was that he had to absorb the entire speed force.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/flash6oroboros031rc0af8.jpg [/B]

Ok what is this supposed to prove?

Again moving a planet quickly doesnt mean you win a forum battle. I coul dpost scans of Prime hitting Superboy and make the claim his punches arent even strong enough to oneshot Superboy.

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread was created in 2006.
We cant take into consideration the guardian amp because it was only temporary. it wasnt current when this thread was created and isnt current now. So unless otherwise specified its out.
He managed to break out due to his suit. The suit fed him power it isnt like he beat him powerless or anything.
The mxy feat has been explained. If you want to post misinformation it only hurts you imo.
He lost the guardians powerup in the middle of his battle with Monarch. It was explained on panel there sparky.
Time trapper might have removed him from the timestream before the blast consumed him. I never once said that he revived him. 🙂

Prime with guradian amp is taken in consideration, because it is not shown if it is entirely gone at this point, you have no scans to prove this.

The mxy feat was shown on panel that prime punched into the 5th dimension and forcefully pulled him out
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/5dpunch.jpg

He did not lose his guardian power up during the fight with monarch, all that monarch said was "your running out of juice". And yet superman still rips him in two, and survives the big bang at point blank
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p17.jpg

Your fault if you can't recogize speed
1. he speed blitzed 3 flashes simultaniously thanos can not do this
2. he moved a vast majority of planets from all around the universe, near simultaniously, to realliagn the center of the universe. thanos can not do this
3. he out sped pre crsis superman in speed thanos can not do this
4. The only way bart was able to out race super boy prime back from the speed zone, after prime was in a weaker state then he had ever been from his cell reserves being depleted after four years of no yellow sunlight. Bart had to absorb the entire speed force to boost his speed just to barely out race him back.
thanos can not do this

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by quanchi112
What Thor feat are you referring to exactly?
Do you have any proof or any canon scans where someone just dominates Thanos in this manner?

Boom. Thanos fly far far away in 1 shot.

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok what is this supposed to prove?
Again moving a planet quickly doesnt mean you win a forum battle. I coul dpost scans of Prime hitting Superboy and make the claim his punches arent even strong enough to oneshot Superboy.

So basically your going to take all scans of SMP not one shotting people and use that as evidence of his weakness?

You make me laugh, shall I take all the scans of thanos not one shotting people and use it as evidence of his weakness?

Their are more scans of SMP one shotting people then him not, lets use the example of when prime attacks earth and overwhelms all of its forces once dawn came, or when he fought earths forces, the green lanterns, the sinestro corps, and the guardians all simultaneously and was winning.

Including downing Ion.

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Originally posted by Board Walker
Prime with guradian amp is taken in consideration, because it is not shown if it is entirely gone at this point, you have no scans to prove this.
The mxy feat was shown on panel that prime punched into the 5th dimension and forcefully pulled him out
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/5dpunch.jpg
He did not lose his guardian power up during the fight with monarch, all that monarch said was "your running out of juice". And yet superman still rips him in two, and survives the big bang at point blank
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/Countdown13p17.jpg
Your fault if you can't recogize speed
1. he speed blitzed 3 flashes simultaniously [b]thanos can not do this
2. he moved a vast majority of planets from all around the universe, near simultaniously, to realliagn the center of the universe. thanos can not do this
3. he out sped pre crsis superman in speed thanos can not do this
4. The only way bart was able to out race super boy prime back from the speed zone, after prime was in a weaker state then he had ever been from his cell reserves being depleted after four years of no yellow sunlight. Bart had to absorb the entire speed force to boost his speed just to barely out race him back.
thanos can not do this [/B]

He says the energy you absorbed from the guardian is used up.
Did you read the whole scan you put up.

he snatched Mxy there but was able to keep him there due to Annataz's magic. Soon as she lifted the spells he left.

It doesnt matter that Thanos can fly etc. He beats characters with flight all the time. I know Prime is quicker but so is the Silver Surfer and Thanos rapes him.

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
He says the energy you absorbed from the guardian is used up.
Did you read the whole scan you put up.
he snatched Mxy there but was able to keep him there due to Annataz's magic. Soon as she lifted the spells he left.
It doesnt matter that Thanos can fly etc. He beats characters with flight all the time. I know Prime is quicker but so is the Silver Surfer and Thanos rapes him.

As I said if you would of read my post, all monarch said was SMP was running out of juice, did it bear any relevance to his power? No.

prime still ripped him open and killed him, while surviving the big bang point blank with nothing but a few scratches.

Reread the comic then, SMP punched into the 5th dimension and forcefuly kept him at the wall, annataz was not forcefully keeping him there, prime was.

The only reason mxy escaped at the very end was due to her creating an escape spell for mxy to get away with, mxy was so weak he wasnt even able to do magic on his own at that point.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Avlon

Boom. Thanos fly far far away in 1 shot.

You do realize that Thanos was faking his own death there.

Thanos wasnt trying to defend himself or do anything other than his goal of faking his own death which he did masterfully. 🙂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Board Walker
As I said if you would of read my post, all monarch said was SMP was running out of juice, did it bear any relevance to his power? No.
prime still ripped him open and killed him, while surviving the big bang point blank with nothing but a few scratches.
Reread the comic then, SMP punched into the 5th dimension and forcefuly kept him at the wall, annataz was not forcefully keeping him there, prime was.
The only reason mxy escaped at the very end was due to her creating an escape spell for mxy to get away with, mxy was so weak he wasnt even able to do magic on his own at that point.

Yes he ripped his armor open with his normal strength. His guardian power was used up and lon ggone. He shrunk. LOL.
I dont think Monarch is dead anyways.

Annatax took away his magic and his will. When she restored it he left. If you disagree thats fine but the comic supports me imo.

Board Walker Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes he ripped his armor open with his normal strength. His guardian power was used up and lon ggone. He shrunk. LOL.
I dont think Monarch is dead anyways.
Annatax took away his magic and his will. When she restored it he left. If you disagree thats fine but the comic supports me imo.

lol who are you to say it was his normal strength? you have no comics showing this, shrunk? he was the same size.