SuperBoy Prime Vs. Thanos

Started by TricksterPriest19 pages

If anything, that scans proves Thanos is ****ed. Thanos couldn't beat Monarch, nor could he rip a hole in his armor.

Prime was running out of gas from his fight with Monarch, and he still managed to not only rip apart his armor, but Prime tanked a universe-killing explosion.

When the hell has Thanos shown that level of power? Guardian Prime would smile after a full-force punch from Thanos. Especially considering that Monarch not only soloed a room full of superheroes, including 3-5 supermen, but he also managed to kill and absorb all 51 alternate versions of Captain Atom.

That's not just power, that's rediculous. Odin and Tyrant would get murdered by this guy in terms of sheer power.

Not to mention SMP looked really sexy when his clothes were all ripped when he landed in the future. 131

Originally posted by fangirl101
Niether Odin or Tyrant has shown the ability to blow up even half a universe. So................................
Was it Monarch's intention to release all this energy? Did Monarch win when he destroyed the universe or lose?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Prime with guradian amp is taken in consideration, because it is not shown if it is entirely gone at this point, you have no scans to prove this.

The mxy feat was shown on panel that prime punched into the 5th dimension and forcefully pulled him out
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/5dpunch.jpg

He did not lose his guardian power up during the fight with monarch, all that monarch said was "your running out of juice". And yet superman still rips him in two, and survives the big bang at point blank
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Your fault if you can't recogize speed
1. he speed blitzed 3 flashes simultaniously [b]thanos can not do this

2. he moved a vast majority of planets from all around the universe, near simultaniously, to realliagn the center of the universe. thanos can not do this
3. he out sped pre crsis superman in speed thanos can not do this
4. The only way bart was able to out race super boy prime back from the speed zone, after prime was in a weaker state then he had ever been from his cell reserves being depleted after four years of no yellow sunlight. Bart had to absorb the entire speed force to boost his speed just to barely out race him back.
thanos can not do this [/B]

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
So what are you trying to prove?

This scan doesn't even prove anything that Thanos would dominate SBP.

This proves he lost his guardian amp and doesnt currently have it. If you would read a little I wouldnt have to let you in on this.

Thanos fanboys tear me up especially because I actually like the character, but their arguments are a bit much sometimes. Werent you saying that Superman 1 million couldnt hurt Thanos despite his "lifting 400 quintillion tons with one handed easily" feat? Funny since he was feeling Gamora's blows who is well below 100 tons..
However, to your credit, still not as bad as the WWH fanboys.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Because SMP is much stronger, faster, durable, and much more powerful than Superman? 😕

2. I even said it is not within his character, but he factually has moved planets like chess pieces. It shows how much stronger he is than Thanos.

3. Prime when powered by the yellow sun in SCW was nigh unstoppable, characters like Superman, Supergirl, Powergirl, Wonderwoman, and the MArtian Manhunter, all very physically powerful, could not hold down Prime once a beam of sunlight hit his hand. SMP's HV went through Superman's shoulder like butter, and this was after his solar suit was mostly destroyed. Thor with the PG has never broken through dimensions or barriers like SMP has. The Phantom Zone didn't take time to break through, he punched right through it. Oh, and Odin physically went right through the Force Block. For all of Odin's power, he is still no doubt weaker physically than SMP.

4. On the scan it shows SMP floating in space and Time Trapper pulling Prime into the future. Nothing has been said about TT reviving SMP.

5. Odin is nothing compared to SMP in a pure physical brawl for starters. And Odin's "fight" with Thanos mostly consisted of Odin beating the crap out of Thanos. Thanos mostly showed his stamina and durability to take punishment from Odin, but nothing Thanos did really affected Odin. Odin put Thanos on his ass a few times. Odin stood the entire fight. And there is a difference between being blasted and being punched, Thanos has never simply taken a punch with ease from someone as strong as SMP.

1. But Superman is a lot faster than Thanos. So if he uses his speed correctly why cant he defeat Thanos since he is so slow? It seems people accept that Thanos defeats Superman but then use Prime's speed as some kind of justification. What feats does Superman Prime have that proves he is more durable than Thanos?
2.I know he can movie planets but even with this strength he couldnt defeat Superboy with a punch. Thanos's durability far surpasses that of Superboy's.
3.Ok so Prime broke free. I remember in WW 3 when Black Adam was oneshotting and blacking out characters as well. Doesnt mean he is beating Thanos imo. What does breaking through dimensions have to do with who wins a battle here? Odin broke free but he is more powerful than Prime imo. Thor with the power gem was more than Prime imo as well. Prove Prime is greater than either one of concede.

4.It is still ambiguous then it would seem as to when the trapper pulled him out.

5.You keep talking about Odin kicking the crap out of Thanos but you do realize you lose steam here. You then say Prime's punches would hurt him when Odin didnt punch him one time. Odin>Prime imo as well. But Thanos has been upgraded since then anyways. When has Prime ever lasted that long with anyone as powerful as Odin outside his guardian amp?

Name me a character that has beaten the shit out of Thanos by physical means in a fair fight on panel. If you cant then your little he has never met someone like Prime argument is your opinion and nothing more imo.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
If anything, that scans proves Thanos is ****ed. Thanos couldn't beat Monarch, nor could he rip a hole in his armor.

Prime was running out of gas from his fight with Monarch, and he still managed to not only rip apart his armor, but Prime tanked a universe-killing explosion.

When the hell has Thanos shown that level of power? Guardian Prime would smile after a full-force punch from Thanos. Especially considering that Monarch not only soloed a room full of superheroes, including 3-5 supermen, but he also managed to kill and absorb all 51 alternate versions of Captain Atom.

That's not just power, that's rediculous. Odin and Tyrant would get murdered by this guy in terms of sheer power.

Again the only reason Prime survived as long as he did was because he took the damage while he had the amp. It was a last ditch effort to rip open the armor but it destroyed his universe so the joke was again on Prime. He didnt realize what he was doing anyways.

This isnt Guardian Prime.
Prime has been defeated by a lot less than a universe explosion while the details of how he survived are still ambiguous until explained on panel.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the only reason Prime survived as long as he did was because he took the damage while he had the amp. It was a last ditch effort to rip open the armor but it destroyed his universe so the joke was again on Prime. He didnt realize what he was doing anyways.

This isnt Guardian Prime.
Prime has been defeated by a lot less than a universe explosion while the details of how he survived are still ambiguous until explained on panel.

This post only shows how biased you really are. So now he had his amp when he tanked the universe exploding? But you just said he didn't have it. So which is it? Did he have the amp or didn't he?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
This post only shows how biased you really are. So now he had his amp when he tanked the universe exploding? But you just said he didn't have it. So which is it? Did he have the amp or didn't he?
You are misunderstanding me.

I meant the only reason he was surviving Monarch and his attacks. Before Prime tore open his armor. Prime at his basic levels couldnt hang with Monarch. As he lost his powerup he then tore open the armor otherwise Monarch would have destroyed him imo.

Prime didnt have the amp when he tore the armor open but its ambiguous I said how he survived. if he took it or if Trapper pulled him out before it hit him.

Good fight. Two of the most relentless characters in comics. I love thanos and I think that he is a extremely powerful character but Im giving prime the majority here. 6/10

Prime is basically a almost unstoppable character. Thanos would give him hell but he would probably lose in the end. I need to see more from upgraded thanos to give him the nod against a being like prime who could survive almost every assault that is sent to him from thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. But Superman is a lot faster than Thanos. So if he uses his speed correctly why cant he defeat Thanos since he is so slow? It seems people accept that Thanos defeats Superman but then use Prime's speed as some kind of justification. What feats does Superman Prime have that proves he is more durable than Thanos?
2.I know he can movie planets but even with this strength he couldnt defeat Superboy with a punch. Thanos's durability far surpasses that of Superboy's.
3.Ok so Prime broke free. I remember in WW 3 when Black Adam was oneshotting and blacking out characters as well. Doesnt mean he is beating Thanos imo. What does breaking through dimensions have to do with who wins a battle here? Odin broke free but he is more powerful than Prime imo. Thor with the power gem was more than Prime imo as well. Prove Prime is greater than either one of concede.

4.It is still ambiguous then it would seem as to when the trapper pulled him out.

5.You keep talking about Odin kicking the crap out of Thanos but you do realize you lose steam here. You then say Prime's punches would hurt him when Odin didnt punch him one time. Odin>Prime imo as well. But Thanos has been upgraded since then anyways. When has Prime ever lasted that long with anyone as powerful as Odin outside his guardian amp?

Name me a character that has beaten the shit out of Thanos by physical means in a fair fight on panel. If you cant then your little he has never met someone like Prime argument is your opinion and nothing more imo.

1. Because Thanos is stronger and more durable than Superman, and his energy attacks would harm Superman far more than they would harm SMP. Superman is a much weaker opponent than SMP. Gee I don't know, maybe tanking a big bang?

2. This was SMP with the solar suit which is shown to be weaker than full power SMP. When SMP fought Superboy at full power, he toyed with him and still had him at his mercy.

3. Only SMP fights much stronger characters than Black Adam, like Guardians. It is a measure of physical might(breaking through dimensions). Odin broke free through pure physical might, Odin is not as strong as SMP. I can't really recall exactly what Thor with PG did, can you link me to his feats? And I was not arguing SMP is overall more powerful than Odin.

4. Not really. Unless SMP likes to just float in space to clear his head(which I highly doubt) there can't really be any other time he could have done it.

5. I know. But far lesser people physically than SMP have hurt Thanos with punches. SMP finished off Monarch after the amp was gone. But you would be right, SMP's main feats are steamrolling over teams, not dealing with beings of similar or above power. The only one who kinda came close was Sodam Yat, and even he was little more than a nuisance to SMP.

Not really. Thanos has no feats to suggest he can beat SMP in a brawl.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Because Thanos is stronger and more durable than Superman, and his energy attacks would harm Superman far more than they would harm SMP. Superman is a much weaker opponent than SMP. Gee I don't know, maybe tanking a big bang?

2. This was SMP with the solar suit which is shown to be weaker than full power SMP. When SMP fought Superboy at full power, he toyed with him and still had him at his mercy.

3. Only SMP fights much stronger characters than Black Adam, like Guardians. It is a measure of physical might(breaking through dimensions). Odin broke free through pure physical might, Odin is not as strong as SMP. I can't really recall exactly what Thor with PG did, can you link me to his feats? And I was not arguing SMP is overall more powerful than Odin.

4. Not really. Unless SMP likes to just float in space to clear his head(which I highly doubt) there can't really be any other time he could have done it.

5. I know. But far lesser people physically than SMP have hurt Thanos with punches. SMP finished off Monarch after the amp was gone. But you would be right, SMP's main feats are steamrolling over teams, not dealing with beings of similar or above power. The only one who kinda came close was Sodam Yat, and even he was little more than a nuisance to SMP.

Not really. Thanos has no feats to suggest he can beat SMP in a brawl.

1.Again Prime has been defeated by much less than a big bang. Where did he disappear to after the big bang? It seems he wasnt there after the blast. So where did he go?
2.He still didnt oneshot him without the suit.
3.How do you know Odin broke through only by physical might?Prime didnt defeat any Guardians and soon as one grabbed him he didnt break free and do jack squat. Thanos has defeated much more powerful characters than Prime imo. Thor beat Dr. Strange,Silver Surfer,and the Inifnity Watch at the same time. Then Thanos beat Thor on his own with his force block blast. He did what those others could no by himself.
4.So no one else saw him after the universe explosion and then all of a sudden he is there. It doesnt make any sense.
5.Name these characters that are far less and that have hurt Thanos with punches. Thanos has raped the Silver Surfer. Prime beat down Ion who just lost I heard to Mongul. Yat isnt impressive at all and at the time he fought Prime he had less experience than he does now.

Name me some impressive top tiers that Prime has beat down under his own power.

Black Adam, Superman, E-2 Superman, Green Lanterns, Sodam Yat, BFRing Anti-Monitor, Monarch, the JLA/JSA, Earth-48 (IIRC) JLA, Solomon the Monitor, the GLC in an alternate timeline, it's a long list.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Black Adam, Superman, E-2 Superman, Green Lanterns, Sodam Yat, BFRing Anti-Monitor, Monarch, the JLA/JSA, Earth-48 (IIRC) JLA, Solomon the Monitor, the GLC in an alternate timeline, it's a long list.
Not sure but Thanos probably has a slighty better list Ion probably is the most impressive next to Monarch but I still give the win to Prime.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Black Adam, Superman, E-2 Superman, Green Lanterns, Sodam Yat, BFRing Anti-Monitor, Monarch, the JLA/JSA, Earth-48 (IIRC) JLA, Solomon the Monitor, the GLC in an alternate timeline, it's a long list.
Ok here we go.

He didnt defeat Black adam he hit him once doing no significant damage and this knocked him away from the tower.

He beat E2 Superman as they were powerless. Still he beat E2 Superman and he was powerless as well but it was one younger guy beating an older man. Nothing more imo.

He bfr'd the Am after he had sustained significant damage from the Guardians and the galaxy destroying blast. It isnt like the Am even knew he would have to deal with Prime. He went nuts and start attacking both sides.

He fought the Monarch with a guardian powerup. Thats the only reason he was able to hang with Monarch imo. He also defeated Solomon the Monitor with this powerup so it also doesnt apply to his feats with his base powers. Green lanterns are canon fodder and a weaker than dos Doomsday seemed to go through like easily as well making it not that impressive imo.

When did he defeat the jla and the jsa under his own power?

In closing you provided many feats when he was powered up and left out a whole lot of context imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok here we go.

He didnt defeat Black adam he hit him once doing no significant damage and this knocked him away from the tower.

He beat E2 Superman as they were powerless. Still he beat E2 Superman and he was powerless as well but it was one younger guy beating an older man. Nothing more imo.

He bfr'd the Am after he had sustained significant damage from the Guardians and the galaxy destroying blast. It isnt like the Am even knew he would have to deal with Prime. He went nuts and start attacking both sides.

He fought the Monarch with a guardian powerup. Thats the only reason he was able to hang with Monarch imo. He also defeated Solomon the Monitor with this powerup so it also doesnt apply to his feats with his base powers. Green lanterns are canon fodder and a weaker than dos Doomsday seemed to go through like easily as well making it not that impressive imo.

When did he defeat the jla and the jsa under his own power?

In closing you provided many feats when he was powered up and left out a whole lot of context imo.

You leave out context a lot too but i do agree most of the impressive fights happened when he had a power up but lets face it Thanos won't be able to count his speed even if he did Prime's durability would make up for it the versatility of his powers seal the deal.

Originally posted by iceman24567
You leave out context a lot too but i do agree most of the impressive fights happened when he had a power up but lets face it Thanos won't be able to count his speed even if he did Prime's durability would make up for it the versatility of his powers seal the deal.
Well I cant explain entire plotlines for each and every event the other poster brought up.

Thanos was able to tag Fallen One and he had impressive speed. Surfer has speed as well and that doesnt stop Thanos from easily besting him.

I still await some Prime feats that eclipse Thanos in terms of one on one victories.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Again Prime has been defeated by much less than a big bang. Where did he disappear to after the big bang? It seems he wasnt there after the blast. So where did he go?
2.He still didnt oneshot him without the suit.
3.How do you know Odin broke through only by physical might?Prime didnt defeat any Guardians and soon as one grabbed him he didnt break free and do jack squat. Thanos has defeated much more powerful characters than Prime imo. Thor beat Dr. Strange,Silver Surfer,and the Inifnity Watch at the same time. Then Thanos beat Thor on his own with his force block blast. He did what those others could no by himself.
4.So no one else saw him after the universe explosion and then all of a sudden he is there. It doesnt make any sense.
5.Name these characters that are far less and that have hurt Thanos with punches. Thanos has raped the Silver Surfer. Prime beat down Ion who just lost I heard to Mongul. Yat isnt impressive at all and at the time he fought Prime he had less experience than he does now.

Name me some impressive top tiers that Prime has beat down under his own power.

1. The only other times he has been beated was from being put in the Speed Force, being depowered, and BFR via Guardians(which only amped him). So humor me, in what way has SMP been beaten through pure force?

2. No, he toyed with him. SMP wasn't even trying. As a matter of fact, I don't think SMP even PUNCHED him, he mostly just bumped him around and threw cars at him. SMP didn't even take Superboy seriously as any kind of threat.

3. Because that was what was shown. 😐 Odin slammed his fists upward and broke through. SMP was battling 3 Guardians, Superman, many GLs, and many Sinestro Corps. members, I may of forgotten a few others. What you fail to see is without a BFR which killed the Guardian who did it, none of those characters could put down SMP. Who has Thanos beaten who is more powerful than SMP? The only one who MIGHT be that comes to mind is The Maker, and she was clearly vulnerable to mindrape, despite her "infinite power". And yeah, I would say SMP could replicate Thor's feat. And Odin broke said Force Block. And arguing SMP's superior physical strength over Odin is...Well it's stupid.

4. After Monarch blew up in his fight with SMP, we get pages showing SMP drifting in space and TT pulling him into the future. It's pretty clear IMO.

5. Gee, I don't know, Gamora maybe? Thanos raped Silver Surfer, who is weaker than SMP. Wowz. SMP totally b!tched Ion in the worst way. SMP took Ion as a joke. SMP has shot HV clean through a GL and injured a Guardian. He overpowered a horde of heroes on top of him, who included Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Wondergirl, Powergirl, and Supergirl. Superman as you know is a top-tier and the rest of them though not quite top tier are still vastly strong class 100s. And those are just the ones I can remember. No one has put down SMP with force. They had to either BFR or depower him.

Oh and my personal opinion on this fight is SMP wins 6/10.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. The only other times he has been beated was from being put in the Speed Force, being depowered, and BFR via Guardians(which only amped him). So humor me, in what way has SMP been beaten through pure force?

2. No, he toyed with him. SMP wasn't even trying. As a matter of fact, I don't think SMP even PUNCHED him, he mostly just bumped him around and threw cars at him. SMP didn't even take Superboy seriously as any kind of threat.

3. Because that was what was shown. 😐 Odin slammed his fists upward and broke through. SMP was battling 3 Guardians, Superman, many GLs, and many Sinestro Corps. members, I may of forgotten a few others. What you fail to see is without a BFR which killed the Guardian who did it, none of those characters could put down SMP. Who has Thanos beaten who is more powerful than SMP? The only one who MIGHT be that comes to mind is The Maker, and she was clearly vulnerable to mindrape, despite her "infinite power". And yeah, I would say SMP could replicate Thor's feat. And Odin broke said Force Block. And arguing SMP's superior physical strength over Odin is...Well it's stupid.

4. After Monarch blew up in his fight with SMP, we get pages showing SMP drifting in space and TT pulling him into the future. It's pretty clear IMO.

5. Gee, I don't know, Gamora maybe? Thanos raped Silver Surfer, who is weaker than SMP. Wowz. SMP totally b!tched Ion in the worst way. SMP took Ion as a joke. SMP has shot HV clean through a GL and injured a Guardian. He overpowered a horde of heroes on top of him, who included Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Wondergirl, Powergirl, and Supergirl. Superman as you know is a top-tier and the rest of them though not quite top tier are still vastly strong class 100s. And those are just the ones I can remember. No one has put down SMP with force. They had to either BFR or depower him.

Oh and my personal opinion on this fight is SMP wins 6/10.

I dont see it that close, Thanos doesn have the speed and is not SMP peer in strength. The only thing that is comparable is durability but we have seen Thanos go down with force before. Prime either speedblitz or just straight out beats the crap outta him. SMP 8/10

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. The only other times he has been beated was from being put in the Speed Force, being depowered, and BFR via Guardians(which only amped him). So humor me, in what way has SMP been beaten through pure force?

2. No, he toyed with him. SMP wasn't even trying. As a matter of fact, I don't think SMP even PUNCHED him, he mostly just bumped him around and threw cars at him. SMP didn't even take Superboy seriously as any kind of threat.

3. Because that was what was shown. 😐 Odin slammed his fists upward and broke through. SMP was battling 3 Guardians, Superman, many GLs, and many Sinestro Corps. members, I may of forgotten a few others. What you fail to see is without a BFR which killed the Guardian who did it, none of those characters could put down SMP. Who has Thanos beaten who is more powerful than SMP? The only one who MIGHT be that comes to mind is The Maker, and she was clearly vulnerable to mindrape, despite her "infinite power". And yeah, I would say SMP could replicate Thor's feat. And Odin broke said Force Block. And arguing SMP's superior physical strength over Odin is...Well it's stupid.

4. After Monarch blew up in his fight with SMP, we get pages showing SMP drifting in space and TT pulling him into the future. It's pretty clear IMO.

5. Gee, I don't know, Gamora maybe? Thanos raped Silver Surfer, who is weaker than SMP. Wowz. SMP totally b!tched Ion in the worst way. SMP took Ion as a joke. SMP has shot HV clean through a GL and injured a Guardian. He overpowered a horde of heroes on top of him, who included Superman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, Wondergirl, Powergirl, and Supergirl. Superman as you know is a top-tier and the rest of them though not quite top tier are still vastly strong class 100s. And those are just the ones I can remember. No one has put down SMP with force. They had to either BFR or depower him.

Oh and my personal opinion on this fight is SMP wins 6/10.

1. He hasnt fought anyone more powerful than a top tier and defeated them save the guardian powerup. Thanos has defeated more impressive top tiers also. Surfer is way more impressive than sodam Yat.
2.Prime wanted him dead is the point. He didnt even kill him. Superboy destroyed the tower.
3.Odin waved his hands at Thanos before and you could tell it was his power as well. I believe he used his power to break free from the pure force block. Odin is a more powerful character than Prime. Again at the end of sinestro corps it was a battlezone. Prime didnt defeat anyone worth noting. He was sucker all kinds of characters but didnt do any real damage to any known characters. Prime didnt fight any of these characters long enough to beat them or himself get beat. Thor in the blood and thunder arc has more impressive feats than Prime imo. Thor with the power gem would annihilate Prime. Prime could never physically beat him.

4.Why was it stated that everything in the universe was destroyed. how come no one saw Prime and how come the Monitor didnt know either?

5.Thanos sparred with Gamora but wasnt serious at all. He killed her before when she opposed him. Silver Surfer is more impressive than any of Prime's victories. Ion is a joke imo. he was a rookie with his powers and didnt know what he was doing when he took on Prime. So every feat Ion does in the future you cant apply to his first fight with his new powers. Prime shot hv through a nameless gl. Predos Dooosday tore through multiple gl's as well. he overpowered but didnt defeat them. He escaped them is all.

Again Prime hasnt beaten anyone that impressive one on one. So I still am not impressed.