Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Shogun will trample Bones.
Well I stand correct. Shogun totally got manhandled by the greenhorn. It reminded me of Velasquez vs Lesnar; one-sided with the champ not pouring his heart-&-soul into it. But in that instance, Velasquez was the favorite and the one with the experience. Shogun is a veteran of the sport, and at 29, still young. By all objective measures, he should have won. Oh well, es nada sucede...
Now, its time to focus on GSP vs Shields.
Originally posted by I-Drop
Nah. Jones is gonna fold Shogun up like an old wallet. You heard it here 1st.
Indeed we did; nice call.
At times, I wonder if the champs sometimes simlpy throw the fight. The Romans use to call it: Lenio vestri sarcina, "Passing on the burden to another". In reference to a champion being tired of being the champion.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
I really hope so but Shogun's year lay off and knee injury might play a big part. Remember the Forrest fight? And how terrible he looked against Mark Coleman?Both those fights he had a year long lay off due to his knee injury and now I'm afraid history is repeating itself 🙁
I hope Shogun still wins it though. But Jon is no joke.
I made this post before Jones won. Its rare to see Shogun gas but now even if he gets a rematch one day with Jones. Jones will be even more improved and his gas tank will be much better as well on a advantage Shogun could have used, had his gas tank been at 100 percent.
Damn. Jones is like a more offensive Anderson Silva with wrestling. I do wonder if Shogun would have found more success with low kicks though. He may have been tentative due to Jones's reach.
And to the guys who want Jones vs Rashad, Rashad said he would never fight Jones. He actually mention that he might move up to HW if Jones beat Shogun.
Oh and poor Crocop. He actually looked good right up until the low kick counter.
Originally posted by Mark Question
Shogun and CroCop both destroyed... I'm going to go cry into my Pride DVD's. Fighting is a hell of a drug.
Originally posted by Quiero MotaAt times, I wonder if the champs sometimes simlpy throw the fight. The Romans use to call it: Lenio vestri sarcina, "Passing on the burden to another". In reference to a champion being tired of being the champion.
Indeed... MMA is such a mentally demanding sport, esp when you're at the championship level.
Originally posted by StyleTime
He may have been tentative due to Jones's reach.
No kidding. His 8 1/2" reach advantage was the tipping point in Jones' favor. Remember when was ground-&-pounding Sogun towards the end of the second? He was casually resting his left elbow on his face and there wasn't a damn thing Shogun could do. He was gassing himself simply by squirming.
Even if Shogun was 100% and not tentative, it would still have ended in a similar manner. It might have gone to the 4th or maybe even the 5th, but the impenetrable fortress of Jones' reach would still be there.
Its pretty funny, really; some greenhorn like Jon Jones made an accomplished veteran look like complete garbage.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No kidding. His 8 1/2" reach advantage was the tipping point in Jones' favor. Remember when was ground-&-pounding Sogun towards the end of the second? He was casually resting his left elbow on his face and there wasn't a damn thing Shogun could do. He was gassing himself simply by squirming.Even if Shogun was 100% and not tentative, it would still have ended in a similar manner. It might have gone to the 4th or maybe even the 5th, but the impenetrable fortress of Jones' reach would still be there.
Its pretty funny, really; some greenhorn like Jon Jones made an accomplished veteran look like complete garbage.
Jones did make Shogun look like complete garbage, I was so sure Shogun was going to kick Jones ass.
Originally posted by batdude123
F*ck MMA.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No kidding. His 8 1/2" reach advantage was the tipping point in Jones' favor. Remember when was ground-&-pounding Sogun towards the end of the second? He was casually resting his left elbow on his face and there wasn't a damn thing Shogun could do. He was gassing himself simply by squirming.Even if Shogun was 100% and not tentative, it would still have ended in a similar manner. It might have gone to the 4th or maybe even the 5th, but the impenetrable fortress of Jones' reach would still be there.
Its pretty funny, really; some greenhorn like Jon Jones made an accomplished veteran look like complete garbage.
Definitely possible. Jones is tall and strong. Shogun kept reaching under Jones's legs on the ground, but the dude's base is so solid. You need legit wrestling skills for him.
Yep. He's only my age and now has a UFC title. The funny thing is, Shogun did the same thing earlier in his career. He won the Pride MW Tournament at the same age Jones is now. It's poetic in a way to lose to the next phenom.
Originally posted by The Nuul
It could be how the fighters and the game has changed over the years. Like in Football, players are stronger and faster.