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Originally posted by batdude123
You mean the lightweight division, and it's not even close as far as I'm concerned.

I knew you were going to say that. What do you predict for Jones?
Originally posted by SpadeKing
Jones can easily neutralize that too. Machida is just more of an elusive hit and run fighter usually trying to set something up or find a hole that he can exploit. Jones' reach is going to take that out and he is going to pull out something Machida won't expect during the fight and well... Machida won't be going to far after that point in the fight.

I can see that, although Machida some unorthodox tools as well. Do you think Jones is going to be the champ for a while then?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Which Silva? Anderson, Wanderlei, or Thiago? Because the latter two are LHW's and can therefore possibly contend. Anderson, on the other hand, is a MW and the current champeen.

Incidentally, there's a lot of rumors in the MMA community that Anderson is afraid to put some meat on his bones. They say he's hanging on to the MW title because he's complacent, and likely wouldn't do as well against bigger guys.


Silva has fought at LHW a few times and destroyed Griffin in a manner which none of the top LHWs have done so far. He walks around at 220 lbs, so it's not much of a jump for him.

He seems bored and unchallenged at MW.

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick

What do you predict for jones?
Originally posted by Mindset
Anderson has been talking about retiring in a couple years iirc.

He has. He said he wants to train the next generation, although that was years ago. Not sure when he plans on actually quitting.

Thoughts on Jones?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe after GSP dominates him? 😎

I'm still worried that the fight may never happen.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I knew you were going to say that. What do you predict for Jones?

The kid is a freak athlete and he's only going to get better as time rolls on. The sky is the limit for him.

That being said, I hope I'm wrong, and somebody cripples him. sneer

Originally posted by StyleTime
He seems bored and unchallenged at MW.

Uncle Chael gave Anderson an epic beatdown, so to say he's unchallenged at MW is false. I really do want to see a rematch.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe after GSP dominates him? 😎

Amen, sister.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Maybe after GSP dominates him? 😎
At checkers, maybe.

Originally posted by Mindset
Anderson has been talking about retiring in a couple years iirc.

Really? Because he's not old...

Styles-

For Jones, I see majority of his opponents having trouble with the reach and unorthodox striking.

Not sure who matches up well against him. Would love to see Phil Davis take the belt though.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I can see that, although Machida some unorthodox tools as well. Do you think Jones is going to be the champ for a while then?

Definitely, I can't really see anyone else in his division that have to tools to beat him. Best chance I see for the people in LHW now is a lucky KO punch.

Considering his age and the little amount of training he has compared to some of the other fighters, I think he might even have a chance at beating Silva's UFC winning streak (they should really put an asterisk on Jones' 1 "loss"😉, then again though someone else could come into the UFC just as dynamic as he is for LHW, which I hope happens cause I really want to see a match up like that.

Dana said that the GSP vs Silva fight wont happen for a while, its still a fantasy fight.

Man f*ck Dana.

Originally posted by batdude123
Man f*ck Dana.

👆

For all his talk about giving fans the fights they want, he truly doesn't give a shit.

Originally posted by batdude123
The kid is a freak athlete and he's only going to get better as time rolls on. The sky is the limit for him.

That being said, I hope I'm wrong, and somebody cripples him. sneer

Uncle Chael gave Anderson an epic beatdown, so to say he's unchallenged at MW is false. I really do want to see a rematch.

Amen, sister.


Gotcha.

Lol.

So do I.....so y'all can see Anderson was just screwing around. uhuh

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Styles-

For Jones, I see majority of his opponents having trouble with the reach and unorthodox striking.

Not sure who matches up well against him. Would love to see Phil Davis take the belt though.


Yeah, Phil would definitely be a challenge if he continues to improve.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
Definitely, I can't really see anyone else in his division that have to tools to beat him. Best chance I see for the people in LHW now is a lucky KO punch.

Considering his age and the little amount of training he has compared to some of the other fighters, I think he might even have a chance at beating Silva's UFC winning streak (they should really put an asterisk on Jones' 1 "loss"😉, then again though someone else could come into the UFC just as dynamic as he is for LHW, which I hope happens cause I really want to see a match up like that.


Cool. I think Rashad has fair chance at a lucky KO like on Forrest.
Originally posted by batdude123
For all his talk about giving fans the fights they want, he truly doesn't give a shit.

What? He gave us BROCK!!! biscuits

I can't believe Bobby Lashley couldn't even soundly beat a middleweight last night. That f*cker isn't UFC material he gasses out way to early.

That was very pathety actually. In fact that LHW/MW could have finished him if he knew how to land a good punch/knee in the face, but anyway...

Bobby Lashey, the man who gasses after being 5 minutes in someones guard punchinbg him in the face lol. Reminds of someone... coff*CarwinCoff*

Jon jones style is actually a very bad style for Anderson. His top control and wrestling is some of the best in the business and he seems to have pretty good sub defense. Machida is likely the best style against him because of machidas patient defensive style as well as him being really good in the clinch with amazing tdd.

I could possibly see machida stuffing jones take downs and out striking him on the feet while maybe landing a takedown or two for himself through the clinch. Jones prowess off his back is still a question that needs to be answered. However jones would still likely be the favorite in that fight for sure.

Phil Davis is a possibility but he needs to improve drastically. From what i saw from him against lil nog, his striking is barely rudimentary. Form and technique was extremely poor. Honestly if lil nog was more aggressive I think davis would have been koed.

Jones seems to have the makings of a long reigning champion but this is lhw so don't speak to soon. The same was said about both machida and shogun and we saw what happened to them.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Jon jones style is actually a very bad style for Anderson. His top control and wrestling is some of the best in the business and he seems to have pretty good sub defense. Machida is likely the best style against him because of machidas patient defensive style as well as him being really good in the clinch with amazing tdd.

I could possibly see machida stuffing jones take downs and out striking him on the feet while maybe landing a takedown or two for himself through the clinch. Jones prowess off his back is still a question that needs to be answered. However jones would still likely be the favorite in that fight for sure.

Phil Davis is a possibility but he needs to improve drastically. From what i saw from him against lil nog, his striking is barely rudimentary. Form and technique was extremely poor. Honestly if lil nog was more aggressive I think davis would have been koed.

Jones seems to have the makings of a long reigning champion but this is lhw so don't speak to soon. The same was said about both machida and shogun and we saw what happened to them.

Machida v Anderson, what a snorefest that would be, seriously they are two of the laziest most negative fighters out. Who would bring the fight or push the pace?

Originally posted by Naija boy
Jon jones style is actually a very bad style for Anderson. His top control and wrestling is some of the best in the business and he seems to have pretty good sub defense. Machida is likely the best style against him because of machidas patient defensive style as well as him being really good in the clinch with amazing tdd.

I could possibly see machida stuffing jones take downs and out striking him on the feet while maybe landing a takedown or two for himself through the clinch. Jones prowess off his back is still a question that needs to be answered. However jones would still likely be the favorite in that fight for sure.

Phil Davis is a possibility but he needs to improve drastically. From what i saw from him against lil nog, his striking is barely rudimentary. Form and technique was extremely poor. Honestly if lil nog was more aggressive I think davis would have been koed.

Jones seems to have the makings of a long reigning champion but this is lhw so don't speak to soon. The same was said about both machida and shogun and we saw what happened to them.

oh and just to clarify. i meant machida vs jones not anderson

Originally posted by Naija boy
Jon jones style is actually a very bad style for Anderson. His top control and wrestling is some of the best in the business and he seems to have pretty good sub defense. Machida is likely the best style against him because of machidas patient defensive style as well as him being really good in the clinch with amazing tdd.

I could possibly see machida stuffing jones take downs and out striking him on the feet while maybe landing a takedown or two for himself through the clinch. Jones prowess off his back is still a question that needs to be answered. However jones would still likely be the favorite in that fight for sure.

Phil Davis is a possibility but he needs to improve drastically. From what i saw from him against lil nog, his striking is barely rudimentary. Form and technique was extremely poor. Honestly if lil nog was more aggressive I think davis would have been koed.

Jones seems to have the makings of a long reigning champion but this is lhw so don't speak to soon. The same was said about both machida and shogun and we saw what happened to them.


I agree with pretty much everything here, so 👆.

I haven't heard many opinions on Jones vs Rashad. What is everyone's take on that?

None one cares about crybaby Evans.

Originally posted by batdude123
Man f*ck Dana.
With no lube. I hate that arrogant......I just really hate him. He's a genius though. What sucks is I've been on kmc for 6 years and never knew there was a mma thread. I've been obsessed with this sport since 94. As for the GSP AS fight, it won't happen. It's bad business. It's better to have two people who are number one rather than just one. Also, if it did GSP eats him.

When it comes to jones, speed kills him. His long arms unravel pretty slow. There is a tyson aldo type speed/power to get under and up to his chin. BUT.....that won't happen for maybe 5 or 6 years.