ufc/pride

Started by Mindset264 pages

Originally posted by I-Drop
True, but it's easier to get KOed that early if you're not that great 🙂

He's gonna get tuned up his next fight too unless they give him a tomato can.

Look at who he has taken his from in the past.

He is a top 10 WW, but I think he'd do better at MW which if what he was b4 coming to the ufc. I would have rather seen AS vs Shields than Gsp vs JS.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Want to see Ellenberger vs Rory Macdonald.

^ This right here. Macdonald is a DYAAAAMN beast!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Koscheck?

He looked impressive in Strikeforce fighting cans and third rate UFC cast offs but Nick isn't a top ten fighter. The idea that he was about to get a title shot was almost laughable (not Dan Hardy laughable... but still pretty bad). If Diaz beats BJ at least he will have done something worth talking about, but right now it just looks like the only reason he got a title shot is because Dana is mining the bottom of the barrel for anyone not named Fitch.

Completely agree. Diaz has not beat anyone worth talking about, and is not even in the ufc. Its hilarious for anyone to think anymore of him.

Originally posted by I-Drop
I think he'd have lost regardless. He's not that great. He's lost 2 of his 3 UFC fights & they robbed Kampmann in the other one. He's gonna have more losses coming his way in the UFC & he'll NEVER be champ.

That's a bit misleading though. One loss was to GSP dude. As for Kampmann, meh. Shields looked horrible and Kampmann still couldn't do much.

I doubt anyone ever thought he'd be champ.

Rampage is going to light up Jones with counter punches and ko him this Saturday. 😎

Unfortunately I won't see it because it's my Grandma's 80th and for some reason she doesn't want to see the fight.

If Jones is the same Jones who fustigated Shogun, he's gonna beat the hell out of Rampage. Rampage does have the power to end it, but I don't think he'll connect with a good enough shot to do it before Jones mauls him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Look at who he has taken his from in the past.

He is a top 10 WW, but I think he'd do better at MW which if what he was b4 coming to the ufc. I would have rather seen AS vs Shields than Gsp vs JS.

Never saw him take a knee right to the face like that tho. Hard knee>>hard punch in most cases.
Originally posted by StyleTime
That's a bit misleading though. One loss was to GSP dude. As for Kampmann, meh. Shields looked horrible and Kampmann still couldn't do much.

I doubt anyone ever thought he'd be champ.

I'm not trying to mislead, truth is he's looked horrible in ALL his UFC fights. He's not been impressive @all. He's not that good. More losses to come 4this guy against anybody worth a damn.

I-drop you definitely know what your talking about.

I want rampage to win but I really doubt thats going to happen. With the fact that jones is huge, athletic, extremely awkard/deadly striking, extremely long reach, and excellent wrestling background, i dont see rampage doing much though. Lets all hope for a lucky punch✅

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Rampage is going to light up Jones with counter punches and ko him this Saturday. 😎

Originally posted by I-Drop
If Jones is the same Jones who fustigated Shogun, he's gonna beat the hell out of Rampage. Rampage does have the power to end it, but I don't think he'll connect with a good enough shot to do it before Jones mauls him.

I'm not saying Rampage will win, but Rampage has better boxing and wrestling than Shogun. I think it'll be a better fight than people think. People counted Rampage out against Machida too, and Rampage is always one hit away from ending a fight.
Originally posted by I-Drop
I'm not trying to mislead, truth is he's looked horrible in ALL his UFC fights. He's not been impressive @all. He's not that good. More losses to come 4this guy against anybody worth a damn.

I'm not disagreeing, I'm just saying that any WW would lose to GSP. Jake may as well be 1-1 as far as the rest of the division is concerned.

I forgot Mark Hunt is on this card. I'd love to see him win, but I know his best days are behind him.

Regardless, he's not afraid to bring the fight to anybody. This should be entertaining.

Originally posted by I-Drop
If Jones is the same Jones who fustigated Shogun, he's gonna beat the hell out of Rampage. Rampage does have the power to end it, but I don't think he'll connect with a good enough shot to do it before Jones mauls him.

Shogun had mad ring rust coming of his injuries / surgeries, fighting at 100% he'd beat Bones in a rematch.

Jones is the most overrated fighter on the planet right now.

I want to see someone who isn't scared of Jones tds break his skinny little chicken legs with leg kicks.

Honestly, I expected Shogun to try and do just that.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I'm not saying Rampage will win, but Rampage has better boxing and wrestling than Shogun. I think it'll be a better fight than people think. People counted Rampage out against Machida too, and Rampage is always one hit away from ending a fight.
Ditto, but Rampage lost that fight IMO. I was happy w/the decision because that balanced out Shogun getting robbed the 1st time he fought Machida
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Shogun had mad ring rust coming of his injuries / surgeries, fighting at 100% he'd beat Bones in a rematch.
Nah. Jones is too big, too strong & too new school for him. 😈
Originally posted by Mindset
Jones is the most overrated fighter on the planet right now.
Double nah. If he beats Rampage will ya'll give him his props?

Jones is not over rated. He is what he is, an excellent fighter.

Honestly he reminds me a lot of anderson silva, except with better wrestling, and stronger. And silva is better in bjj, I think.

Of course he's overrated.

He hasn't even defended his title and people are putting him on the same level as GSP and AS. 😐

Even if Jones winds up being some crazy 5+ year title holder, Mindset has a point. While he did have an impressive showing against Shogun, we've still got several top fighters that match up well against him on paper.

He could be the missing corner of a GSP/Silva triangle, or he could just be a fighter who hasn't been tested yet. Time(and possibly Rampage) will tell.

Going with Rampage... I think Jones is a paper tiger, guess i'll find out Sat.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Even if Jones winds up being some crazy 5+ year title holder, Mindset has a point. While he did have an impressive showing against Shogun, we've still got several top fighters that match up well against him on paper.

He could be the missing corner of a GSP/Silva triangle, or he could just be a fighter who hasn't been tested yet. Time(and possibly Rampage) will tell.

We will have to see. From his stats, wrestling, and how badly he beat shogun (i know this is one fighter, he might not been at his best but c'mon, he clearly, easily beat him) i would say he is more near a gsp silva triangle. I could be wrong, and he could end up how machida was (not losing till an actual GOOD fighter comes along) but so far his stats and showing tell me other wise.

😂 Rampage was right. Jones did choke(him)