ufc/pride

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Rashad did pretty good, but needs to learn how to kick again. Dan's lack of head movement looks like he's asking to be headkicked.

^ Yeah, Rashad seems to be going the Rampage route sometimes. Content to box only, although he uses more wrestling than 'Page.

Looking at the official UFC rankings, and wondering does this bump Rashad to the number 3 contender spot? He did lose to Nog though.

Either way, he could fight his way to another title shot. Jones already beat most of the division, so rematches are all that will be left.

Oddly enough, I feel like he has a better shot against Jones than he does against Machida.

LHW needs a b12 shot, other than Phil Davis and Gus all the top contenders are over the hill legends or bloated middle weights trying to hide from Anderson.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
LHW needs a b12 shot, other than Phil Davis and Gus all the top contenders are over the hill legends or bloated middle weights trying to hide from Anderson.

Glover?

I'd rather give that injection to the HW division honestly.

On a side note, Alexis Davis vs Rosi Sexton was pretty cool. It's nice to see someone actually escape the figure 4 body lock, so kudos to Sexton. I totally sound like an armchair warrior, but it looks likes most just defend chokes when they get locked up, rather than trying to escape.

You're supposed to roll to the side of the lock, and use your feet to break their hold while turning into their guard.

And I know it's difficult with someone punching you in the side of the head during an MMA match. I'm just saying, it was cool to see someone escape it. uhuh

Oh, and Josh Barnett is returning to the UFC. Any thoughts?

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/6/1/4385400/josh-barnett-on-return-to-the-ufc-it-was-the-perfect-fit-mma

http://www.ufc.com/fighter/Josh-Barnett

Should make for some good fights, but he's never getting the belt. Fitch got his ass kicked & Burkman finished it w/style. Was never a huge fan of Fitch. Shields ain't shit. I want him out of UFC. Woodley gave him waaaaaaay to much respect.

I didn't like or dislike Fitch, but it's weird to see him go out like this. I'm guessing Dana feels justified in his decision now.

On that note, didn't expect Pat Barry to lose the way he did either.

Tyrone was definitely tentative. Jake's ground game just scares the shit out of people. Even GSP wanted none of that.

If only Shields could learn to strike, or at least develop some power...

I think people underestimate Jake Shield's striking at times. It isn't exactly the prettiest or the most dangerous but it does score points and he knows how to win with it.

Who have people got between Weidman and Anderson?

I've got Weidman winning as long as he can stick to his game plan. I don't know what it is about Anderson's opponents a lot of them have success against him in the first round with wrestling and take downs... but then they think to themselves "Wow! My wrestling just won me round against Anderson Silva! Obviously I can out strike him now!!!!" and then Anderson f@cks them up. Weidman needs to stand with Anderson as little as he possibly can and still set up a take down and I think he has the style to win.

I'm thinking Weidman by decision or sub, but as always there is good chance Anderson knocks him out the second he makes a mistake.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've got Weidman winning as long as he can stick to his game plan. I don't know what it is about Anderson's opponents a lot of them have success against him in the first round with wrestling and take downs... but then they think to themselves "Wow! My wrestling just won me round against Anderson Silva! Obviously I can out strike him now!!!!" and then Anderson f@cks them up. Weidman needs to stand with Anderson as little as he possibly can and still set up a take down and I think he has the style to win.

I'm thinking Weidman by decision or sub, but as always there is good chance Anderson knocks him out the second he makes a mistake.

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Originally posted by noitseuq
I think people underestimate Jake Shield's striking at times. It isn't exactly the prettiest or the most dangerous but it does score points and he knows how to win with it.

Who have people got between Weidman and Anderson?


I can see that, but it seems his success there is due to people being scared of going to the ground with him.

I don't know honestly.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've got Weidman winning as long as he can stick to his game plan. I don't know what it is about Anderson's opponents a lot of them have success against him in the first round with wrestling and take downs... but then they think to themselves "Wow! My wrestling just won me round against Anderson Silva! Obviously I can out strike him now!!!!" and then Anderson f@cks them up.

I think many of them expect strikers to freeze up in fear of the takedown, and forget that Anderson will unload his strikes whether he got taken down or not.

I'm also not really sure. On one hand, if Weidman gets Silva down I can genuinely see him pulling off the submission. It's scary how good his BJJ is, I mean we're talking about a guy who with only a few months of training was able to give Andre Galvao, who's one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, a competitive match and recently Roger Gracie, possible the best BJJ practitioner ever and somebody who's trained with Weidman, said Weidman has the skills to potentially submit anybody, including himself, in an MMA match. For a guy that started off as a wrestler who's only been training in BJJ for a couple of years, that's pretty incredible stuff.

Whether he can easily take Anderson down is another story however. Chael Sonnen made it look easy but the truth is that Anderson Silva has some very good TDD and part of what made Chael so successful is how quickly he can cover distance and his relentless pace and style. Chris Weidman might try to set the takedown up with strikes and in that small window of opportunity Anderson can be very dangerous with his striking.

Also, the two Sonnen fights will have likely been the tests Anderson needed to slowly start taking his TDD to the next level for a potential superfight with Jon Jones and there's a good chance he basically spent all his time training his TDD for this fight.

Honestly, I have no idea who wins this though I'm probably leaning towards Silva.

anybody watch "The Ultimate Fighter" on SpikeTV?

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Originally posted by noitseuq
I'm also not really sure. On one hand, if Weidman gets Silva down I can genuinely see him pulling off the submission. It's scary how good his BJJ is, I mean we're talking about a guy who with only a few months of training was able to give Andre Galvao, who's one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world, a competitive match and recently Roger Gracie, possible the best BJJ practitioner ever and somebody who's trained with Weidman, said Weidman has the skills to potentially submit anybody, including himself, in an MMA match. For a guy that started off as a wrestler who's only been training in BJJ for a couple of years, that's pretty incredible stuff.

Also, the two Sonnen fights will have likely been the tests Anderson needed to slowly start taking his TDD to the next level for a potential superfight with Jon Jones and there's a good chance he basically spent all his time training his TDD for this fight.

Honestly, I have no idea who wins this though I'm probably leaning towards Silva.


Yeah, Weidman was beating blackbelts in tournaments despite his lack of training. He is very talented. That said, we shouldn't sleep on Anderson's ground game. Grappling isn't the same when strikes are involved, and Anderson has shown a pretty good ability to combine those with his own submission skills + sub defense.

We may see Anderson with improved wrestling. In recent interviews, he's identified his wrestling as a weak spot, and said he is working on ways to counter that.

It's definitely hard to bet against Anderson at this point. Weidman may be the person to change that. Maybe not.

Ditto. Weidman's got a good chance, but I'm still leaning towards Silva

He really is a nightmare matchup for Anderson; he may in fact just be the single most effective grappler in MMA right now. Sure there are more proven wrestlers but he is potentially right up there with the best (he had a pretty spectacular collegiate career, with notable wins over Ryan Bader and Phil Davis, and being a D1 All-American, all at a higher weightclass, and he seems to have adapted it well for MMA though as I said it's still relatively unproven), and when you combine that with his BJJ (imo top 10 in high level MMA) he's one of the rare guys who's not only dangerous on the ground, but effective at getting the fight there.

Edson won with leg kicks. Love watching him fight.

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Looks like even Anderson can't always get away with the hands down, taunting the opponent routine.