Wolvenom vs Superman

Originally posted by batdude123
How can he cover something up that's intangible? That doesn't make any sense. Besides, what the hell is Wolvenom going to do when he goes at speeds faster than the speed of light attacking him and such? Is Wolvenom going to magically latch onto him even though he wouldn't be able to see him? 😆 Plus, doesn't Superman also have the whole sonic sound vibration thing he can do with his voice? couldn't that sound hurt the symbiote? Besides, if Superman really felt like an assh*le, he could just fly into outer space and blow up earth with his heat vision. 😆

most recent showings of heat vision have proven that two football fields worth of doomsday clones is enough to exhaust poor supes... sorry to kill your fantasies though...

as for intangability... it doesn't make any sense that a corporial being could become literally intangible in the first place.. I don't see you arguing against that arithmetic however... why is that? "how does moving so fast that he becomes literally intangible" make any more sense then symbiotes coverine over someone who has the ability to become intangible...

also superman can't stay intangible for long durations of time...if he's constantly being covered by symbiotes the moment he stops he gets taken over...

if supes chooses to hightail it to the sun well... he might as well make himself comfortable sine he's going to have a halo of symbiotes there to keep him in check..

as far as wolvenom not seeing supes.. wolvenom's in stealth mode.. how does supes see him?

Originally posted by jinzin
cover him up like they did to stranger, silver surfer, and flash...

Symbiote covered up Flash? When the hell did this happen? If it did happen, just note that Flash can't tap into the Speed Force in the Marvel Universe. He gets reduced to Quicksilver's speed level.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
but again, carnage tried to take over SS and THAT didn't work...

Man I hate Inconsistancies 😛

actually it didn't work because s.s. had some help and time to overcome the symbiote's influence.. had there been two symbiotes ther.. 3... more... the outcome would have been significantly different... still though that doesn't change the fact that ONE symbiote was enough to jedardize s.s.' existance.

Originally posted by batdude123
Symbiote covered up Flash? When the hell did this happen? If it did happen, just note that Flash can't tap into the Speed Force in the Marvel Universe. He gets reduced to Quicksilver's speed level.

during the big marvel/dc x over...

Originally posted by batdude123
New Avengers #1 Sentry (who is a Superman knock-off), ripped Carnage in two without even trying. I'm sure Superman could do the same thing or anything he can put his imagination to.

how does that help your argument.. I'm not debating a fist fight with superman here.. I'm not debating carnage vs. supes here.. I'm debating wolvenom w/horde of symbiote vs. superman since that's the premise that I was attacked for last night.. there has yet to be provided significant evidence to say that supes could win this.

Originally posted by jinzin
most recent showings of heat vision have proven that two football fields worth of doomsday clones is enough to exhaust poor supes... sorry to kill your fantasies though...

as for intangability... it doesn't make any sense that a corporial being could become literally intangible in the first place.. I don't see you arguing against that arithmetic however... why is that? "how does moving so fast that he becomes literally intangible" make any more sense then symbiotes coverine over someone who has the ability to become intangible...

also superman can't stay intangible for long durations of time...if he's constantly being covered by symbiotes the moment he stops he gets taken over...

if supes chooses to hightail it to the sun well... he might as well make himself comfortable sine he's going to have a halo of symbiotes there to keep him in check..

as far as wolvenom not seeing supes.. wolvenom's in stealth mode.. how does supes see him?

I think that if Superman was in the sun, his heat vision would become ALOT more powerful.

Plus, if Venom were in space, could he really control what direction he's going in? Can they fly? (SERIOUS QUESTION!)

Adding to that, if Venom Left Wolverine.. it would no longer be wolvenom, thus Superman winning by default 😉

How is Wolvenom going to harm Supes?

as for moving through the vacumme of space.. symbiotes don't seem to have a problem doing that in the example I posted...

I don't doubt that supe's heat vision would get a lot more powerful if he resided in the sun...

and it doesn't have to be the venom symbiote that covers supes to win the match... though wolvenom could still win through psionic nightmares that would distort superman's reality to an extent where he couldnt' tell what was real and what wasn't...

see here's the thing.. when the symbiotes hit earth, earth got taken over by them in a matter of days if that... are we seriously trying to suggest that superman>>>>>marvel earth? cause that just doesn't sound like a good argument IMO...

Originally posted by badabing
How is Wolvenom going to harm Supes?

already posted how...

Is this fight Superman vs Wolvenom or Superman vs the entire Symbiote race?

Originally posted by jinzin
already posted how...

Originally posted by jinzin
most recent showings of heat vision have proven that two football fields worth of doomsday clones is enough to exhaust poor supes... sorry to kill your fantasies though...

as for intangability... it doesn't make any sense that a corporial being could become literally intangible in the first place.. I don't see you arguing against that arithmetic however... why is that? "how does moving so fast that he becomes literally intangible" make any more sense then symbiotes coverine over someone who has the ability to become intangible...

also superman can't stay intangible for long durations of time...if he's constantly being covered by symbiotes the moment he stops he gets taken over...

if supes chooses to hightail it to the sun well... he might as well make himself comfortable sine he's going to have a halo of symbiotes there to keep him in check..

as far as wolvenom not seeing supes.. wolvenom's in stealth mode.. how does supes see him?

So your logic is that just because you think it doesn't make sense that Superman can become intangible, that Wolvenom could cover him? 😬 I fail to make the connection.

He doesn't need long to be intangible. All he needs to do is pull out the symbiote host's heart, in this case, Wolverine's.

If Superman goes to the sun, he would become a lot more powerful because he would absorb the yellow sun radiation. All of his abilities would get amped tremendously. Including his heat vision. Anyways, if he is in the sun, what makes you think that Wolvenom would survive the sun's conditions? In the center of the sun, it reaches temperatures of 29 million degrees Fahrenheit.

Is Jinizin's argument that Wolvenom will call the entire Symbiote race to help him fight Supes?

Originally posted by jinzin
as for moving through the vacumme of space.. symbiotes don't seem to have a problem doing that in the example I posted...

I don't doubt that supe's heat vision would get a lot more powerful if he resided in the sun...

and it doesn't have to be the venom symbiote that covers supes to win the match... though wolvenom could still win through psionic nightmares that would distort superman's reality to an extent where he couldnt' tell what was real and what wasn't...

see here's the thing.. when the symbiotes hit earth, earth got taken over by them in a matter of days if that... are we seriously trying to suggest that superman>>>>>marvel earth? cause that just doesn't sound like a good argument IMO...

I will say this, Jinzin. You've made a GREAT argument on behalf of Wolvenom.. but I still don't see him winning this battle.

Not to mention... the name of this thread is Wolvenom Vs. Superman.

Not Countless amounts of Symbiotes come to earth Vs. Superman.

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Originally posted by badabing
Is Jinizin's argument that Wolvenom will call the entire Symbiote race to help him fight Supes?

Is that what this is? I thought that this was just Wolvenom vs. Superman. Mono e Mono. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Let's just pile a sh*t load of characters to fight Superman, cause that's the only way he's losing to them. I think it's dumb for jinzin to be arguing the WHOLE symbiotic race against Superman because he can take ALL of them out one on one. This thread is stupid, I'm not posting on this thread anymore. I think I'll go make a Wolvenom vs. Superman army thread. 🙄 Gimme a break!

Originally posted by badabing
Dude. this thing is too long to reread. Just give me a quick breakdown. 😎

wolvenom goes stealth to buy time while his psionic scream calls in backup from the symbiote race.. they arrive in a few minutes overwhelm superman and wolvenom is lest standing to claim the day...

-aside from this the symbiotes could take superman over
-instill psionic nightmares into superman's brain effectively making him insane and induced with fear/panic
-stab him repeatedly... new venom is in the low 60 to mid 70's in class range for strength.. wolverine can cut hulk without a symbiote so superman's skin would have to be almost 140,000 times denser than hulks to keep wolvenom from peircing his skin.. I just don't see that as plausible
anyways.. those are just a few..

Originally posted by jinzin
during the big marvel/dc x over...

So DC/Marvel Crossover is canon now?

Yeah Wolverine can take Lobo....

Storm can beat Wonder Woman....

And Venom can overcome Flash´s Speed.

This is really pathetic even for your standards.

Originally posted by batdude123
Is that what this is? I thought that this was just Wolvenom vs. Superman. Mono e Mono. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Let's just pile a sh*t load of characters to fight Superman, cause that's the only way he's losing to them. I think it's dumb for jinzin to be arguing the WHOLE symbiotic race against Superman because he can take ALL of them out one on one. This thread is stupid, I'm not posting on this thread anymore. I think I'll go make a Wolvenom vs. Superman army thread. 🙄 Gimme a break!

^^^

Originally posted by jinzin
wolvenom goes stealth to buy time while his psionic scream calls in backup from the symbiote race.. they arrive in a few minutes overwhelm superman and wolvenom is lest standing to claim the day...

-aside from this the symbiotes could take superman over
-instill psionic nightmares into superman's brain effectively making him insane and induced with fear/panic
-stab him repeatedly... new venom is in the low 60 to mid 70's in class range for strength.. wolverine can cut hulk without a symbiote so superman's skin would have to be almost 140,000 times denser than hulks to keep wolvenom from peircing his skin.. I just don't see that as plausible
anyways.. those are just a few..

LOL derrr yeah yet you fail to show me this happening.................if as you said previoulsy Superman goes to the Sun and the Symbiotes follow him there he'll have a great time shooting them out of the universe seeing as he's right by the sun there won't be a problem for SM's energy.

Secondly DD even clones are much tougher then any symbiote, class 70 is jack to SM's speed blitz and he doesn't need minutes to speed blitz Wolvenom.........................but I mean hey keep going it does make me laugh when you post for a struggled victory............

Keep specualting on the intangible becuase you certainly cannot disprove it so that would still be a viable win for Superman.........unless you show symbiotes taking over someone intangible.