Wolvenom vs Superman

Started by spetznaz8 pages
Originally posted by jinzin
he'll be stuck there regardless... symbiotes go into earths atmosphere... now he's gotta leave the sun because plenty of innocents on ....

More and more scenarios that were not part and parcel of the original set of stipulations.
Now Venomrene/Wolvenom/whatever is calling myriads of symbiotes from outerspace, a scenario that was not part of the original set put in place by the original poster.

However, since you have Wolvenom dialing up 1-800-symbiote, then I guess I could as easily say that Superman asks the Jay Garrick for help building the cosmic treadmill, and they both build it at superspeed (maybe Jay can ask for help from the other Speedsters since everyone is being so free and friendly with their acquaintances) and then jogs at it at light speed .....and then heads to different time streams and parallel realities to ask the different iterations of kryptonians (and even a couple Daxamites or two) to come and aid him (like when the Infinity Witch broke down dimension barriers to have thousands of Supermen from different time streams attack Solaris).

It would be utterly ridiculous for me to put such an addendum, but since we are making pizza calls for Symbiotes I guess it is alright for Superman to also start dialing the cosmos too.

i was wondering are you aware that though superman was depowered in his fight with venom it was only his strength that suffered from a significant decrease.. his speed, flight, heat vision, etc etc were all unhindered abilities...

I call bull!
You are telling us that somehow Superman was DEPOWERED, meaning a reduction in intensity and efficacy of his powers, yet ONLY strength was affected and he could still make MAXIMUM use of his speed, sensory faculties, heat vision, arctic and super breaths, etc?
Yet he was depowered .....but according to you it was selective.
That's bull.
It is like saying that in the fight between Superman and Spiderman (where Supes was also DEPOWERED) that only his strength was affected and that he could have easily have blitzed at near light speed even though his strength was a shadow of its prime peak. For the matter even if Superman's strength was taken to less than normal human level, but he still kept his other abilities, he would still be too powerful for the majority of characters. Imagine a Flash level character with heat vision that can re-ignite planet-sized engines, the power of flight, a bio-field, and his various sensory abilities (eg his various super senses) and offensive capabilities (eg arctic breath). Even with less than human strength, and with everything else operating at max, Superman would be too much for most characters. Anyways, depowered is depowered.
......unless you can show that in the Venom fight only Superman's strength was affected by his depowering and every other ability of his was at prime level.

Prove it!

and this just proves how much you're not listening... STRANGER IS INTANGIBLE.....

http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=max00068af.jpg

and did it help him? no.. no it did not...

Nice scan.

Sadly all that it shows is that the Stranger CAN become intangible.
What it doesn't show is that he was intangible when he was being saturated with symbiotes from outer space. He simply was not written as doing so during that attack.
Now, it might seem like mere semantics, but according to KMC rules all the characters would be using all of their abilities to their optimal level (while sticking to laid stipulations), thus if Superman can do it he WILL do it according to the rules.
Take the Flash ....in comics he at times slows down to the level where Gorilla Grodd gets him, but based on KMC rules that would never happen. The Flash would make full use of his power sets (in which case it would be absolutely ludicrous for characters like Grodd to even bother with the Flash since he would be moving so fast that they couldn't even see nor detect him).

Anyways, your scan showed that the Stranger can go intangible.
The other scans you showed had the Stranger get covered in symbiotes galore. He was not being intangible since he was not written as being intangible while that was occuring (and anyways, being intangible means he could simple walk through them, rise through them, sink into the earth, .....)

Under KMC rules the Stranger wouldn't have been swamped like that.
Under KMC rules Superman doesn't even pay attention to Wolvenom.

And if we are dialing in symbiotes from the adjacent galaxies then someone could easily say that Superman initiates stratagems that bring Supermen from other dimensions to mop up the symbiote excess, but then again that would be against the set rules ....and if someone said that they would immeditely be labeled a superman fanboy.
However it is kosher for 'Wolvenom' to play 'phone a friend,' right?

Originally posted by Soleran
he wasn't intagible when the symbiotes attacked him and you haven't shown me how stranger can make his entire body like that
yes he was 🤨 he was incapibale of being touched.. intangible...

all you'v got at this point are nu-uh arguments....

Originally posted by Soleran
so as I said earlier if Wolvenom is calling the symbiotes then I also would assume the JLA is on call and they have handled invasions *whitemartians* so I doubt the symbiotes would be much different.
sure they would.. cause if one symbiote takes over a JL member now they're fighting they're own.. forced to hold back and will eventualy be overwhelmed just like marvel earth was...

Originally posted by Soleran
surviving heat rays that are hotter then the core of the sun,

perhaps not hotter than the sun.. but as hot as pure light can become... http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v99zm.jpg

Originally posted by Soleran
or his frost breath or his superspeed or his trength like when he knocked lobo into orbit etc etc................sorry no counters yet.
frost breath you said it yourself supes has to to find him.. speed and strength I've already covered... no counters my ass...

Originally posted by badabing
This thread makes mefuriouscensored 😠 then I want toblowup and finally, go into a fetal position andbawling.

imagine how it makes me feel....

Originally posted by jinzin
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frost breath you said it yourself supes has to to find him.. speed and strength I've already covered... no counters my ass...

lol yeah no really you don't have any counters..............just what ifs because you don't have any proof for Wolvenum.....................

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

wait whats the in the scan say again ...................

Who cares about camo..............Superman hears everything..........so much for that disguise huh.

spetznaz you obviously didn't read why we're even having this discussion.. I'm well aware of the KMC rules now.. however the stipulations of the symbiote tactic were what I used to come to the conclusion for which I'm presently being attacked.. If I'm attacked for arriving at a conclusion based on a specific set of reasoning you simply can't change the reasoning and attack me for the same conclusion.. that's all this thread is demonstrating at this point...

as for stranger.. so i suppose he let himself be overwhelmed? or maybe the psyionic properties of the symbiotes effected his ability to some extent.. and about the superman thing.. you can ***** about it all you want.. but that's how it went down.. supes even speedblitzed venom in the beginning of the fight.. finally lets not forget that superman's powers in general have gone through significant boosts within the last few years as opposed to when he fought venom...

Originally posted by Soleran
lol yeah no really you don't have any counters..............just what ifs because you don't have any proof for Wolvenum.....................

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/863/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg

wait whats the in the scan say again ...................

Who cares about camo..............Superman hears everything..........so much for that disguise huh.

strength is self evident.. wolverine deals with hulk blows all the time
venom stood up and laughed at juggernaught punches.. put the two together and figure it out...

speed aside from the apparent space travel speed of the symbiote.. we've seen symbiotes cross the nation in the matter of a few seconds using tendrils.. this may not be up to par with superman's speed.. but it's certainly enough to land hits...

considering the fact that batman's done it, the general's done it, neither well known for transending light speed...

and as far as supe's hearing.. he's almost had the drop on him by an invisable guy before.. batman took him out.. furthermore batman's snuck up on supes on several different occasions.

and don't get me wrong I realize how ridiculous some of these arguments sound but I am using the same type of logic that I used when I first came onto these boards.. "it's canon it's happened it's useable"...

a logic which has since undergone developments..

Superman uses his super hearing, flies to space uses his hearing then his vision to mark the symbiote then he unleash's his heat vision (bye symbiote) notices the symbiotes coming (Superman can see to the Source even on earth the symbiotes are nothing for him to see) he calls the JLA...................the Green Lanterns gather up and round the symbiotes up and chuck them into the sun.....................wow and done.

Re: Wolvenom vs Superman

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Evidently Jinzin thinks Wolvenom would win. What does everyone else think?

Creating a thread to spite another member is not permissable. And given your recent spree of reported posts, it's not the smartest move on your part either.

Closed.