If the roles of illegal immigration were reversed...

Originally posted by meep-meep
Of course not. But why does that mean you can't learn at least some spanish or french or wtf ever?

And also go to miami (in the U.S.)you might be surprised to find out the major language might not be Englsih.

Originally posted by NineCoronas
A lot of people around here, where I live talk about it all the time. 😖

but thats just it. they talk about it. it disappoints them. but where is all the outrageous and often violent passion we see with regards to those who attack illegals?

Originally posted by NineCoronas
Because we don't want to, and it was our country, our language first that they are invading in droves without actually making any real effort to do it legally.

no, parts of america belonged to the english. and if you live in texas, by that logic you should be forced to learn spanish since spain originally occupied it.

p.s. everyone else: yeah, the native americans were the originals, fine. but we are speaking in terms of conquest

Originally posted by NineCoronas
Because we don't want to, and it was our country, our language first that they are invading in droves without actually making any real effort to do it legally.

Just like it was the american indians country. If you are going to act like you know about your country then pretend to know it's history and don't act like you are a victim. Try to put this into perspective. But your right it WAS your country. I for one welcome our new mexican overlords.. 😉

Originally posted by PVS
but thats just it. they talk about it. it disappoints them. but where is all the outrageous and often violent passion we see with regards to those who attack illegals?

Methinks it's easier for some to point at a group of people as the source of their problems. Hence racism.

Just wondering out loud, but how many other countries have to deal with this situation?

Originally posted by idowhatiamtold
Just wondering out loud, but how many other countries have to deal with this situation?

I am going to go out on a limb here and say probably just the USA with the mass's we recieve, which is good and its always helpful to get insight from people who don't live in the USA so they can hand us their extensive experience in theory on how to handle this situation.

Originally posted by Soleran
I am going to go out on a limb here and say probably just the USA with the mass's we recieve, which is good and its always helpful to get insight from people who don't live in the USA so they can hand us their extensive experience in theory on how to handle this situation.

especially since the u.s. has relatively no problems with legal/illegal immigrants while in europe they are turned into second class citizens and alienated until a point in which they riot and everything goes to chaos. how about we DONT take advice from our neighbors, or use them as an example of what not to do.

Originally posted by PVS
especially since the u.s. has relatively no problems with legal/illegal immigrants while in europe they are turned into second class citizens and alienated until a point in which they riot and everything goes to chaos. how about we DONT take advice from our neighbors, or use them as an example of what not to do.

Exactly!

Originally posted by PVS
no, parts of america belonged to the english. and if you live in texas, by that logic you should be forced to learn spanish since spain originally occupied it.

p.s. everyone else: yeah, the native americans were the originals, fine. but we are speaking in terms of conquest

i know, im just being a ball breaker.

however, like i said, your point on speaking english has nothing at all to do with illegal immigration.

Originally posted by NineCoronas
Because we don't want to, and it was our country, our language first that they are invading in droves without actually making any real effort to do it legally.

👆 That's one thing I absolutely agree with. Immagrants should make an effort to learn the language of whatever country it is they're moving to.

Originally posted by PVS
no, little dog=america, big dog=china. give it about a decade.

We have lost a lot of business to our own plant in China! We have a plant there, and our plant competes against our own company because labor is NIL in China. That's right, when calculating our costs, we do not even consider labor cost for China because it is essentially a dollar an hour. That is a rate that is impossible to beat, so we have to beat them on material costs and locality (it costs $5,000 to ship from China to US on a barge).

Originally posted by Soleran
I am going to go out on a limb here and say probably just the USA with the mass's we recieve, which is good and its always helpful to get insight from people who don't live in the USA so they can hand us their extensive experience in theory on how to handle this situation.

Hmm, let me look at the statistics there for a moment.

Ah yes, Germany...80 million people live here.....7.3 million Immigrants....wow, that's like almost 9 percent....

Hmm so Germany is about 350000 square Kilometres....wow, that's like less than 4% of the US....hmm seems we have just as much of an immigration issue as you have...then again we don't have as much Redneck KKK members, so it's probably not as much of a problem.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, let me look at the statistics there for a moment.

Ah yes, Germany...80 million people live here.....7.3 million Immigrants....wow, that's like almost 9 percent....

Hmm so Germany is about 350000 square Kilometres....wow, that's like less than 4% of the US....hmm seems we have just as much of an immigration issue as you have...then again we don't have as much Redneck KKK members, so it's probably not as much of a problem.

We have more Illegal immigrants then you have immigrants all together, very nice! This isn't about how to handle legal immigrants is it, nope I think not. We have a system for legal immigrants thats not perfect but certainly doesn't pose the problems that handling illegal immigrants present.

Originally posted by Soleran
We have more Illegal immigrants then you have immigrants all together, very nice! This isn't about how to handle legal immigrants is it, nope I think not. We have a system for legal immigrants thats not perfect but certainly doesn't pose the problems that handling illegal immigrants present.

Well ultimately it is about Legal Immigrants...if the Immigration was easier for people there would be less Illeagal Immigrants.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well ultimately it is about Legal Immigrants...if the Immigration was easier for people there would be less Illeagal Immigrants.

Whats easier as defined by you, and would there be? In my little bit of life experience I have found that when people work for what they have it has a higher value to them, something given for nothing inherently has less value.