If the roles of illegal immigration were reversed...

From the pages of the Minutemen project:

To the President and Government of Mexico:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, I will be expecting the following:

Free medical care for my entire family.
English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need.
All government forms need to be printed in English.
I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
I want my kids to see the American flag flying over the Mexican flag at their school.
Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.
I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes
Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you are good neighbors to the U.S.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Would Mexico treat us as good as we treat their illegal immigrants? I'm not being racist and pointing out Mexico, but a majority of illegal immigrants come from Mexico. Either crossing our borders illegally, or over staying their welcome and letting their visas expire.

How does Mexico treat their illegal immigrants?

You can go here on some info on how they treat their illegal immigrant problem:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MEXICO_MISTREATING_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-04-18-18-08-31

I think you might be missing the point of ilegal immigration. No one goes from bad to worse, intentionally.

The minutemen, are fu*king fanatics. They should be disarmed and spanked, all teh way back to their mommies house. Take nothing they say seriously. I mean, they threatened to build a wall....really. Looking at that situation, I would say the President did teh right thing by not responding. If you can get some dumbasses to build a wall out of their free blood, sweat and tears, then let them. Oh, or does that sound like slavery? Ouch.

Aren't these the same guys that are looking for Bigfoot and teh Everglades Skunk Ape?

My neighbors came from Mexico. They are the Martinez family and some dude named Pedro and his wife Linda. The Martinezes let me play with their dog whenever it's running loose down the street, and when Pedro is watering his grass, his sprinkler goes full-circle and waters mine. I have no complaints about my Mexican neighbors and am very happy to have them.

i find that the majority of people who so passionately complain about immigration are the ones who are effected by it in no way at all 😬

have you ever had your job taken from you by an illegal?

mugged by an illegal?

ever turned away by a doctor or hospital because they were busy giving free care to illegals?

really, how have they (you) been screwed over by illegals? please tell me.

no articles. no friend of a friend bullshit. YOU. i want to read YOUR tale of injustice.

Dude, when I worked at a restaurant one time, this one guy on the fry line - and I believe he came from Mexico City - only gave me one order of fried green tomatoes, when the ticket clearly called for two! The customers were pissed!

I demand retribution!!

Apparently Mexico is the only country down south 😉

Okay.

Originally posted by El_NINO
Apparently Mexico is the only country down south 😉

And treats their illegal immigrants like crap.

Originally posted by PVS
i find that the majority of people who so passionately complain about immigration are the ones who are effected by it in no way at all 😬

have you ever had your job taken from you by an illegal?

mugged by an illegal?

ever turned away by a doctor or hospital because they were busy giving free care to illegals?

really, how have they (you) been screwed over by illegals? please tell me.

no articles. no friend of a friend bullshit. YOU. i want to read YOUR tale of injustice.

I'm f#@kin pissed that their probably gonna get a freaking free ride while my family members went through all that legal bureaucracy, time, and money to get into this country. That's like saying f#@k you to all the legal immigrants who got into this country legally. That in itself is an injustice.

The President Of Mexico demands fair treatment for his citizens while he meets his illegal immigrants with violence, extortion, rape, etc... What a freaking hypocrite.

What the f#@k? Their not called ILLEGAL immigrants for nothing. They already broke major laws to get here. Sure the majority of them are honest and want to better their lives. That's good and dandy. But they should go to the back of the freaking line and wait their turn. I got relatives who applied for visas nearly 7 months ago and are still waiting for approval.

If a bill passes that decriminalizes all these illegal immigrants and we give them citizenship, America's illegal immigrant problem will be much worse in the future. More people will try to get into this country illegally because America awards illegal immigrants with free citizenship if enough people complain and whine about it.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I think you might be missing the point of ilegal immigration. No one goes from bad to worse, intentionally.

The minutemen, are fu*king fanatics. They should be disarmed and spanked, all teh way back to their mommies house. Take nothing they say seriously. I mean, they threatened to build a wall....really. Looking at that situation, I would say the President did teh right thing by not responding. If you can get some dumbasses to build a wall out of their free blood, sweat and tears, then let them. Oh, or does that sound like slavery? Ouch.

Aren't these the same guys that are looking for Bigfoot and teh Everglades Skunk Ape?

Well I joined the Minute Men Project so yeah I am crazy. I'll be heading to Arizona in this month to volunteer my time for a week with them.

Join us:

http://www.minutemanproject.com/

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I'm f#@kin pissed that their probably gonna get a freaking free ride while my family members went through all that legal bureaucracy, time, and money to get into this country. That's like saying f#@k you to all the legal immigrants who got into this country legally. That in itself is an injustice.

The President Of Mexico demands fair treatment for his citizens while he meets his illegal immigrants with violence, extortion, rape, etc... What a freaking hypocrite.

What the f#@k? Their not called [B]ILLEGAL immigrants for nothing. They already broke major laws to get here. Sure the majority of them are honest and want to better their lives. That's good and dandy. But they should go to the back of the freaking line and wait their turn. I got relatives who applied for visas nearly 7 months ago and are still waiting for approval.

If a bill passes that decriminalizes all these illegal immigrants and we give them citizenship, America's illegal immigrant problem will be much worse in the future. More people will try to get into this country illegally because America awards illegal immigrants with free citizenship if enough people complain and whine about it. [/B]

I'd totally agree with you if everyone, also people born in the US would be illegal until accepted. If not, well then you have no more right ot be there than any Illegal Immigrent.

Wow, there sure are a lot of incoherant posts in this thread...including my own!

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
I'm f#@kin pissed that their probably gonna get a freaking free ride while my family members went through all that legal bureaucracy, time, and money to get into this country. That's like saying f#@k you to all the legal immigrants who got into this country legally. That in itself is an injustice.

you're pissed because someone who is NOT you gained their citizenship while others remain illegals and can get deported at any time? not being rhetorical, im genuinely asking. where is the connection. my great grandparents came to NY on a boat and became citizens...and yet i dont see the connection of how they were or i am screwed over by some mexican migrant worker.

in other words, you have not answered the question. in fact you didnt even make a valid connection. your parents are citizens, they are not. yet illegals are better off? wow

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
The President Of Mexico demands fair treatment for his citizens while he meets his illegal immigrants with violence, extortion, rape, etc... What a freaking hypocrite.

the president rapes and beats immigrants? news to me 😑
although i will agree the mexican government is entirely corrupt and disfunctional, i fail to see the connection>>>how have illegals hurt YOU.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
What the f#@k? Their not called [B]ILLEGAL immigrants for nothing. They already broke major laws to get here. Sure the majority of them are honest and want to better their lives. That's good and dandy. But they should go to the back of the freaking line and wait their turn. I got relatives who applied for visas nearly 7 months ago and are still waiting for approval.

If a bill passes that decriminalizes all these illegal immigrants and we give them citizenship, America's illegal immigrant problem will be much worse in the future. More people will try to get into this country illegally because America awards illegal immigrants with free citizenship if enough people complain and whine about it. [/B]

you just went on the same rant and it still answers nothing 😬

again, how have YOU been hurt or at least put at a disadvantage by illegals?
simple question.

heres an example of a possible answer:

"i was applying for a job as a floor sander and got undercut by illegal immigrants who do the job for half the price" (valid)

"i was mugged by an illegal (or so i think)" (valid)

"my uncles brothers nephew's cousin told me a story about this guy who knows a guy who died in a hospitol because they were too busy helping illegals with no insurance" (invalid)

"TOOK OUR JOBS!!! ILLEGAL!!!! *infinately more various buzz words/phrases*!!!!!!!!!!!" (invalid)

i challenge anyone and everyone.

Originally posted by PVS
i find that the majority of people who so passionately complain about immigration are the ones who are effected by it in no way at all 😬

have you ever had your job taken from you by an illegal?

mugged by an illegal?

ever turned away by a doctor or hospital because they were busy giving free care to illegals?

really, how have they (you) been screwed over by illegals? please tell me.

no articles. no friend of a friend bullshit. YOU. i want to read YOUR tale of injustice.

You have a good point, and I have not been personally effected by illegal immigration.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Well I joined the Minute Men Project so yeah I am crazy. I'll be heading to Arizona in this month to volunteer my time for a week with them.

Join us:

http://www.minutemanproject.com/

Minority groups have always been used as easy targets by governments/dictators/leaders.
It's nowthing new.
That people still BUY scape-goats however, never seize to amaze me.

I'm looking forward to see anyone meeting PVS' challenge.

Originally posted by PVS
you're pissed because someone who is NOT you gained their citizenship while others remain illegals and can get deported at any time? not being rhetorical, im genuinely asking. where is the connection. my great grandparents came to NY on a boat and became citizens...and yet i dont see the connection of how they were or i am screwed over by some mexican migrant worker.

in other words, you have not answered the question. in fact you didnt even make a valid connection. your parents are citizens, they are not. yet illegals are better off? wow

the president rapes and beats immigrants? news to me 😑
although i will agree the mexican government is entirely corrupt and disfunctional, i fail to see the connection>>>how have illegals hurt YOU.

you just went on the same rant and it still answers nothing 😬

again, how have YOU been hurt or at least put at a disadvantage by illegals?
simple question.

heres an example of a possible answer:

"i was applying for a job as a floor sander and got undercut by illegal immigrants who do the job for half the price" (valid)

"i was mugged by an illegal (or so i think)" (valid)

"my uncles brothers nephew's cousin told me a story about this guy who knows a guy who died in a hospitol because they were too busy helping illegals with no insurance" (invalid)

"TOOK OUR JOBS!!! ILLEGAL!!!! *infinately more various buzz words/phrases*!!!!!!!!!!!" (invalid)

i challenge anyone and everyone.

My little brother got beat up by an illegal (Or so I think).

Originally posted by The Omega
Minority groups have always been used as easy targets by governments/dictators/leaders.
It's nowthing new.
That people still BUY scape-goats however, never seize to amaze me.

I'm looking forward to see anyone meeting PVS' challenge.

But I did meat it. I have no bad experience, but that does not mean that I don't know any illegal immigrants. These people are just like us, some of them are bad, but most of them are good.

Originally posted by NineCoronas
My little brother got beat up by an illegal (Or so I think).

I may be way off here, but has anyone explored the option of putting land mines all along the border? Just wondering, and now I'll take this off the air for your comments.

how about sharks with frikin laser beams strapped to their heads?