His victories against Namor are CIS.
I am not a Wolverine hater, but when Namor acts peacefully when Wolverine has killed an Atlantean in front of his very eyes, it is Character Induced Stupidity. If you have read any Namor stories, you know that he isn't a peaceful guy, especially when the subjects of his kingdom have been hurt/killed.
He once attacked a whaling ship. Because they hurt a whale.
Wolverine killed his advisor and he hovers and talks peacefully.
Glaring CIS all over the match.
Originally posted by leonidasPlease note that I am not saying Wolverine takes Immortal Hercules 9/10 times, buuuuut...
that's possible with MORTAL herc. immortal is a MUCH different animal, essentially unkillable . . .
Wolverine has knocked out the IMMORTAL Wendigo 2 or 3 times and made him run away at least once. Not saying Wolverine would take him, but unless Immortal Hercules is tougher than Savage Hulk Wolverine could put him down. Admittedly I dont know a lot about Hercules, but I did see him go toe to toe with Thor a few times. How does immortal Hercules compare to a Namor or a Hulk? Is he stronger/tougher or just unkillable?
Originally posted by riceroost
Please note that I am not saying Wolverine takes Immortal Hercules 9/10 times, buuuuut...Wolverine has knocked out the IMMORTAL Wendigo 2 or 3 times and made him run away at least once. Not saying Wolverine would take him, but unless Immortal Hercules is tougher than Savage Hulk Wolverine could put him down. Admittedly I dont know a lot about Hercules, but I did see him go toe to toe with Thor a few times. How does immortal Hercules compare to a Namor or a Hulk? Is he stronger/tougher or just unkillable?
It's not good to compare Hulk with other brawlers. For example, Hercules is much smarter, much better fighter and faster to boot. Putting Hulk against Wolverine is same as putting an super-strong retarded two year old against someone hundred times smarter then he is with knives. No strategy at all. Just idiotic smashing.
And I will guanteree you..."ME SMASH ANNOYING CLAW MAN" is not going to be on Hercules's head when fighting Wolverine...
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerWhen did Hercules get a speed enhancement? Hulks not really slow. And even Green Hulk is intelligent enough to use a hostage. (Hulkj # 8 against Wolverine) He may act like a child at times, but he still often capable of higher cognitive thought process when in Savage Hulk form.
It's not good to compare Hulk with other brawlers. For example, Hercules is much smarter, much better fighter and faster to boot. Putting Hulk against Wolverine is same as putting an super-strong retarded two year old against someone hundred times smarter then he is with knives. No strategy at all. Just idiotic smashing.And I will guanteree you..."ME SMASH ANNOYING CLAW MAN" is not going to be on Hercules's head when fighting Wolverine...
Originally posted by riceroost
Please note that I am not saying Wolverine takes Immortal Hercules 9/10 times, buuuuut...Wolverine has knocked out the IMMORTAL Wendigo 2 or 3 times and made him run away at least once. Not saying Wolverine would take him, but unless Immortal Hercules is tougher than Savage Hulk Wolverine could put him down. Admittedly I dont know a lot about Hercules, but I did see him go toe to toe with Thor a few times. How does immortal Hercules compare to a Namor or a Hulk? Is he stronger/tougher or just unkillable?
he's certainly stronger than namor (sorry, dc . . .) and as strong as a really po'd hulk. mortal herc tires, immortal does not and can take a LOT more damage. herc has appeared on a couple occasions to have had an advantage against sav hulk. they're pretty close, actually, in many ways. to kill him requires basically LUDICROUS amounts of damage, but he certainly has been ko'd with enough force.
be tough for wolvie to take him because slashing him would be like killing him slowly. wolvie would need a major hit to weaken him enough to the point where he could take him out. something to the eyes or ears or throat might do it, but herc is enormously skilled himself -- though h2h i think wolvie is better. and herc's speed is underrated and his reaction times are godlike.
i'll not say it's impossible for wolvie, but i'd give him 1/10 against immortal and maybe 5/10 against mortal.
Originally posted by leonidasHow fast does Immortal Hercules heal? Mortal Hercules?
he's certainly stronger than namor (sorry, dc . . .) and as strong as a really po'd hulk. mortal herc tires, immortal does not and can take a LOT more damage. herc has appeared on a couple occasions to have had an advantage against sav hulk. they're pretty close, actually, in many ways. to kill him requires basically LUDICROUS amounts of damage, but he certainly has been ko'd with enough force.be tough for wolvie to take him because slashing him would be like killing him slowly. wolvie would need a major hit to weaken him enough to the point where he could take him out. something to the eyes or ears or throat might do it, but herc is enormously skilled himself -- though h2h i think wolvie is better. and herc's speed is underrated and his reaction times are godlike.
i'll not say it's impossible for wolvie, but i'd give him 1/10 against immortal and maybe 5/10 against mortal.
not sure the rate -- he doesn't have a 'healing factor' in his powerset -- but i've seen him fight while he's been very badly beat up and injured.
mortal herc actually tired during his brief fight against the hulk and suffered greatly from his wounds. one advantage mortal had: he knew he had to be SMARTER, so he fought like he should ALWAYS fight. imm herc is a boastful, at times overconfident character who does not often show the level of skill he should in fights. he is a beast though, and i'm trying to recall if i've ever seen him truly overpowered in a fight, but i don't think i have -- at least not when he's been sober . . . ๐
Originally posted by riceroost
Oh no, according to Wolverine haters his victories against Thing, Spider-Man, Namor, etc. are all PIS too.
There is no way in god's name that Wolverine can beat Namor. Its just stupid to even think about it.
I can see him beating Thing once in a while and once in a blue moon spider-man, but Namor? No, just no.
Originally posted by Grimm22
There is no way in god's name that Wolverine can beat Namor. Its just stupid to even think about it.I can see him beating Thing once in a while and once in a blue moon spider-man, but Namor? No, just no.
first u said he can't beat namor and he done it already
then u say he can only beat thing onces in a while( ur very bias)
then u say he can only beta spiderman in a blue moon( yup please show more hate for wolverine)
to bad wolverine always does better then spiderman when the tango
Originally posted by capt it up
see and this is why when u say he ahs no way in hell of beta namor do i take ur oppion with a grian of salt.first u said he can't beat namor and he done it already
then u say he can only beat thing onces in a while( ur very bias)
then u say he can only beta spiderman in a blue moon( yup please show more hate for wolverine)
to bad wolverine always does better then spiderman when the tango
I'm bias? ๐ ๐
Also, whoever wrote Wolverine beating Namor obviously needs to be hit by a truck to help get their brain on track.
Once again, spellcheck
Originally posted by Grimm22
Huh? ๐
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t402705.html
come and lets see who is better