Originally posted by Lightsnake
Janus, that's some strange reasoning...Nadd got killed in an Onderonian uprising. How could he possibly take Yoda, described as up to ROTS the strongest foe the Darkness had ever had? And own Luke? By NJO? Seriously...
For one, obscene hyperbole doesn't make Yoda better than any other jedi. I certainly didn't see Yoda defeating Dooku or Sidious with his uber badassness. If he's the best the light side has to offer (Which I strongly disagree with), then the jedi ****ing suck.
Two, NJO Luke loses because he doesn't impress me.
Oh wait, where have I heard that lame ass reason before? Let me guess...
Way to take my comments totally out of context. I see Dooku running away from Yoda though after realizing, to quote "He was not the strongest after all."
And obscene hyperbole? Strongest foe the darkness had ever known is clear cut as they come. Nadd, a half-trained Sith killed in an uprising beats two accomplished Jedi masters, both of whom have clearly shown themselves to possess great power?
hey, Td, out of curiosity...care to argue with the novelization? "Strongest foe." Hm...well, I don't see you proviidng anything to back things up minus your idiot ranting. Citations? ANYTHING?
One thing, tdtd.
What part of "That statement was made with no regard to EU" do you not understand? Yoda would be no match for any of the ancient sith, no matter what your brain tells you to believe.
It was in the novelization of the movie. You realize that anything stated in the novelizations, as long as it doesn't contradict the movie, is considered canon right? Therefore the "strongest foe the darkness had known" is true, and nothing in the EU says otherwise either. I don't really think he'd be the strongest (and I'm guessing it was only referring up to his life), but if the novelization states it, it is canon.
Though, Janus does make a good point lol.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Way to take my comments totally out of context. I see Dooku running away from Yoda though after realizing, to quote "He was not the strongest after all."
Dooku put up a pretty damn good fight, considering he's a fraction of Yoda's age and experience, and ideally a 900 year old jedi should be able to FUBAR everything. But Yoda can't. And Yoda didn't make inanimate objects resistant against lightsabers, cut off people from the force, create walls of light or any of that, even though he had every reason to do so. Hence, Yoda is not that uber in comparison with people like Vodo and Odan-Urr.
And obscene hyperbole? Strongest foe the darkness had ever known is clear cut as they come.
Where's this quote from? Dan Wallace's opinion? Didn't you get burned for buying into NEC hyperbole already?
Nadd, a half-trained Sith killed in an uprising beats two accomplished Jedi masters, both of whom have clearly shown themselves to possess great power?
Correction: Nadd, who was immensely powerful in the force (Enough to taint the planet for hundreds of years, instakill King Ommin, hell, his tomb in KotOR was riddled with darkside power...) and Malak, who regularly pwns jedi with his impressive force stasis ability and force lightning, not to mention top notch saber skills in his own era, put up a tremendous fight and I say- kill Yoda and put NJO Luke out of the fight.
Crystal clear now?
Yoda is stated to be the storngest enemy the darkness had ever known, as well as having mastered all of the greatest and mightiest techniques of the Jedi. He's above Vodo. That's from the movie novelization and several other sources. Not the NEC at ALL. And Dooku';s damn good fight doesn't matter. He realized he was the weaker, he ran. Novelization substantiates it....oh, and a random Jedi in JvS makes a staff resistant to a lightsaber.
Instakill King Ommin? The boneless, dying blob on the floor?
Yes, crystal clear...you're either being intentionally facetious or you've lost the right to call anyone else a fanboy again.
Nadd dies instantly. Either one of these guys kill him on their own. Crystal Clear?
I don't have to, Janus is doing the better work, I can agree with him because he's right, not to mention I already backed up my arguments conclusively a few posts earlier. Just because you tend to ignore the obvious, doesn't mean I don't back myself up. I'm assuming you've been on this forum the entire day, so I'll be back late tonight to destroy the rest of your half assed arguments.