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Some of those situations where Vanderjagt missed are Mannings fault. In the Pitt game he should have at least got him in the middle of the field or cut down the distance, but he felt the need to take a few shots towards the endzone instead of actually helping your kicker out. Same with the NE game, if Manning hadn't got sacked then sureley Vanderjagt would have made the FG.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Some of those situations where Vanderjagt missed are Mannings fault. In the Pitt game he should have at least got him in the middle of the field or cut down the distance, but he felt the need to take a few shots towards the endzone instead of actually helping your kicker out. Same with the NE game, if Manning hadn't got sacked then sureley Vanderjagt would have made the FG.
you are kidding right?

Originally posted by chris_64256
you are kidding right?

Why do people put responses like these?

Just say what you have to say, you know I'm not kidding stop wasting my time.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Why do people put responses like these?

Just say what you have to say, you know I'm not kidding stop wasting my time.

easy internet tuff guy
your post is a waste of my time its "mannings fault" the most accurate kicker in "NFL" misses fieldgoals are you kidding me did you happen to see last years playoff miss, he just didnt miss it it was 20 yards to the right A kicker has one job Kicking shit happens in all Adam Vinatieri kicks they were 45 to 50 yards he did not have promblems the two game winners he put threw for new england was both 50 yards in the "Superbowl".. This is escpecially a moot point when a conveince clerk name matt bryant kicked a 62 yard bomb to when a game not to long ago Vanderjakt is a choke artist plain simple to blam peyton manning for that miss is a ****ing joke..

How am I an internet "tuff <-----😆 guy" ?

In those two situations I listed they werent all Vanderjagt's fault. Manning should have gotten them closer in the Pitt game instead of going for the end zone 3 straight times.

And the NE game, if Manning didn't get sacked then he would have made the field goal easily, I dont like repeating, I just said this, and your response to it was laughable.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
How am I an internet "tuff <-----😆 guy" ?

In those two situations I listed they werent all Vanderjagt's fault. Manning should have gotten them closer in the Pitt game instead of going for the end zone 3 straight times.

And the NE game, if Manning didn't get sacked then he would have made the field goal easily, I dont like repeating, I just said this, and your response to it was laughable.

So peyton manning is why vanderjakt could never make a game winning field goal?

yeah that makes sense 😱

Originally posted by chris_64256
So peyton manning is why vanderjakt could never make a game winning field goal?

yeah that makes sense 😱

No that's is nowhere near what I said.

Read again

In those two situations I listed they werent all Vanderjagt's fault. Manning should have gotten them closer in the Pitt game instead of going for the end zone 3 straight times.

And the NE game, if Manning didn't get sacked then he would have made the field goal easily,

And I say again a guy with that talent should make those fieldgoals.

It's all hindsight peyton should have done this or this when it comes down to it your a kicker when your given a oppurtunity to end a game to get to the superbowl and you miss it by at least 20 yards to the right not even close.

You know in a perfect world all kickers would like 30 yard kicks this is real life that kick was a joke. peyton did his job he put the most accurate kicker ever in position to do his job and he blew you can blame the play calling all you want thats just a cop out.

another 2 pt thingy.. had HInes ward got in that would have then been a good time for a 2 pt try.

Yes the QB could always get a kicker closer. No its not the QB's fault when the kicker misses a makeable kick. If they were outside of the kickers range and they didnt worry about getting him closer first then maybe. But once they are in his range its not their job to be babysitting him its their job to try to win the game. I do think the colts should have tried to get closer and not just bomb it right to the endzone, but that doesnt matter the kick has to be made.

Its partly Peyton's fault, he was the one calling the plays. If he knew Vanderjagt wasn't clutch then he should have tried to do something to help him out. I believe it was a 49 yard kick, I cant remember but that seems about right, and he wasn't even in the middle of the field. A simple 5-7 yard completion would have done the trick. And Forum weren't you the one who said Dennis Greene should have been fired because of his play calling, when Arizona could have beat CHI. Two straight runs with Edge when they should have let Leinart throw to get the first, or put Rackers in better position. The play calling was at fault on that drive, just like the Pitt-Indy game.

something not everyone knows. Manning doesnt exactly call the plays. The coordinator sends in 3 plays to him, and he picks what he wants and makes adjustments to them on the line. But the main thing is if the coaches wanted him going short and making the FG 5 yards easier theyd of made that clear to him. If they wanted him to try to score if he could theyd make that clear.

ouch this goes with my comments in the best QB ever poll/thread Brady just got a little pressure on him.. he scrambled away from it fine but then WAY overthrew his WR who was well covered and it was an easy pick for INDY on a drive where NE was moving the ball well. Bad decision by Brady. And now Manning is able to buy time by running under pressure and hit harrison right on the money for 30+ yards on 3rd and 15. Superbowls or not thats a prime example of why manning is the better QB than Brady.

Yeah they arnt.

But in Brady's case, he also performs too, but I think he is a tad overrated because of the Superbowl wins. But its not like he isnt good either. Top 5 QB's in the NFL right now.

and the refs blow it again. That was pass interference but the refs get the call wrong and the colts dont get 1st and goal on the 1, and end up settling for a FG.

oh man the refs just screwed the colts a second time, because Brady did not get a first down.. and how the hell did they call that a first so quickly? that was total bs HAHAHA yea and the replay officials of course once again are useless. If the colts lose this game its on the refs at this point. Two HUGE mistakes.

I agree with both.

My favourite is Belicheck....running all the way down the field to complain, gets on the field while the play is on and is there for atleast two plays on a call that is blatent. They're was no doubt about it that it was intereference, or illegal contact,

And then the first down. Brady didnt get it, but that isnt what I found wrong with it. My problem is that the head ref didnt even take the ****ing chains out to see if it was a first down. How is that possible?

yea he can NOT call it a first instantly theres just no way he could tell that easy. And since they just moved the chains up already re-spoting the ball correctly wouldnt even matter because they couldnt measure since they had moved the chains.

Yeah, thats the problem.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Yeah they arnt.

But in Brady's case, he also performs too, but I think he is a tad overrated because of the Superbowl wins. But its not like he isnt good either. Top 5 QB's in the NFL right now.

Yeah. Even without the rings, he's #2 behind Peyton the last few years.

A friend of mine who has been doing fantasy for a number of years told me he has had Brady a couple times the last few years, and it's nearly as comforting with Brady starting as Peyton (and without having to blow a first-round pick)....not quite as explosive, but every bit as consistent and reliable.

True. I just said Top 5 to be on the safe side of debate.

But too me, for a guy to be the second best QB in the league, he gives up a tidy sum of TO's.

Well, I won't be able to sleep tonight.

Go Colts!