Originally posted by Omega Vision
He tked a few ordinary humans away. We don't even know how far they went. Color me unimpressed.
The question was, and I quote:
Originally posted by King Ghidorah
Proof Alucard has ever done it in a fight? BFR? LOL since when did he have that ability? He sure didn't manage to BFR any of his opponents.
So yes, he has done it in a fight. He has the ability. He has the mindset.
Next, I'm assuming you want proof of his scale? As you are two different posters, I won't accuse you of shifting the goalposts - had Ghidorah frothed at the mouth and screamed for proof (whilst calling me a fanboy, and adding a few LOLs here and there), then I would.
Anyway, he was moving an aircraft carrier PLUS a 'massive spy plane' that had crashed into it, from the middle of the Atlantic to London. I also provided the scan in the previous page.
I do not know the mass of Doomsday, admittedly - but I wager it is far less than an aircraft carrier+ spy plane (was it a modified SR-71?) if Alucard can move such a massive object, he can move Doomsday, and hurl him far further than what he did with those guys. The online sources I have looked at (wikis, admittedly) have Doomsday at around 900lbs, or 400kg. Currently, the UK has no aircraft carriers - but the last one, HMS Illustrious, was 22,000 tons. An Sr-71 is 52 tons on top of that. Assuming extensive damage, let's say the carrier/plane combo was 22,000 tons.
IOW, the power required to move an aircraft carrier+plane at the rate of a few knots, would easily hurl something as relatively light as Doomsday a much further distance.
Originally posted by grey fox
Alucard takes a licking and keep's on ticking . It would take a while and he'd have to use his bare-hands . But he'd win.
Alucard using his bare hands couldn't do a damn thing to Doomsday. So this comment is puzzling. Doomsday could turn Alucard into a pile of goo just with a single finger flick. Oh sure he'd regenerate...but regenerating won't magically cause him to suddenly gain strength enough to do anything to Doomsday.
Alucard is going to kind of be wishing his regeneration wasn't so good, he'd be wanting to be allowed to die as opposed to continually getting turned into a fine red mist for all eternity.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The question was, and I quote:So yes, he has done it in a fight. He has the ability. He has the mindset.
Next, I'm assuming you want proof of his scale? As you are two different posters, I won't accuse you of shifting the goalposts - had Ghidorah frothed at the mouth and screamed for proof (whilst calling me a fanboy, and adding a few LOLs here and there), then I would.
Anyway, he was moving an aircraft carrier PLUS a 'massive spy plane' that had crashed into it, from the middle of the Atlantic to London. I also provided the scan in the previous page.
I do not know the mass of Doomsday, admittedly - but I wager it is far less than an aircraft carrier+ spy plane (was it a modified SR-71?) if Alucard can move such a massive object, he can move Doomsday, and hurl him far further than what he did with those guys. The online sources I have looked at (wikis, admittedly) have Doomsday at around 900lbs, or 400kg. Currently, the UK has no aircraft carriers - but the last one, HMS Illustrious, was 22,000 tons. An Sr-71 is 52 tons on top of that. Assuming extensive damage, let's say the carrier/plane combo was 22,000 tons.
IOW, the power required to move an aircraft carrier+plane at the rate of a few knots, would easily hurl something as relatively light as Doomsday a much further distance.
If he could TK then why didn't he TK Anderson, Walter, Luke Valentine, Tubalcain Alhambra, Rip Van Winkle etc. the list goes on. Doomsday wins and he probably does have resistance to TK since something with TK has killed him in the past and now he has a resistance to it. Doomsday is going to keep reducing Alucard to paste. Level 0? Doomsday couldn't be more tickled with excitement of all those zombies he gets to pulverise. Hurr hurr Alucard can TK hurr hurr. Never did that against his opponents as I listed above. Where was his TK to save him from Walter? No where.
Originally posted by King Ghidorah
If he could TK then why didn't he TK Anderson, Walter, Luke Valentine, Tubalcain Alhambra, Rip Van Winkle etc. the list goes on. Doomsday wins and he probably does have resistance to TK since something with TK has killed him in the past and now he has a resistance to it. Doomsday is going to keep reducing Alucard to paste. Level 0? Doomsday couldn't be more tickled with excitement of all those zombies he gets to pulverise. Hurr hurr Alucard can TK hurr hurr. Never did that against his opponents as I listed above. Where was his TK to save him from Walter? No where.
PIS. Also, he didn't need TK, because he had other means to fight.
When did TK kill him? Hurr hurr (not sure what this is).
My point is, Alucard CANNOT harm Doomsday in any other way.
Doomsday will keep smashing the crap out of Alucard, but he will keep reforming over and over and over again. Whilst his bullets etc will be useless against Doomsday.
At SOME point, whilst he was ripped apart for the 247th or so time, he will think, hmm, why not try TK. THAT is my point.
I mean, even Rhino isn't THAT stupid, to stand there and get ripped apart over and over and over and over again whilst his own attacks do ZILCH. So why are people assuming that would happen here? Everytime Alucard allowed himself to be ripped apart, it was because he could reform and destroy his opponent. But as I FREELY admit, several times, he CAN'T affect Doomsday with his bullets or zombies or Baskerville dog. So....BFR.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So you can't admit Alucard will lose at current versions? And by your logic every brick should lose to every guy who has TK? So PC Validus would lose against Alucard too?
I can admit it.
Current Doomsday wins.
But if you read back, my original convo was with Ghidorah, who WASN'T using current Doomsday (mentioning Omega Beams etc). So my question to you is, are you jumping into a conversation that didn't involve you?
If BFR is on, why not? It's a forum fight, not comic fight. One side can harm the other over and over again, the other side cannot harm through conventional means, but isn't an absolute idiot. After a few dozen times, why WOULDN'T they try it?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I can admit it.Current Doomsday wins.
But if you read back, my original convo was with Ghidorah, who WASN'T using current Doomsday (mentioning Omega Beams etc). So my question to you is, are you jumping into a conversation that didn't involve you?
If BFR is on, why not? It's a forum fight, not comic fight. One side can harm the other over and over again, the other side cannot harm through conventional means, but isn't an absolute idiot. After a few dozen times, why WOULDN'T they try it?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because that's not how fights ever go down in anime or comics. You are not fighting in this thread with Alucard's power.
Ok. So in your opinion, PC Validus (or, more appropriately, Doomsday) will rip Alucard apart.
He will reform.
He will be ripped apart.
He will reform. He will try shooting. No effect.
He will be ripped apart.
He will reform. He will try using the Baskerville dog. No effect.
He will be ripped apart.
Repeat 20x. I agree with this.
After a while, UNLESS Doomsday/Validus gives him lasting death (and remember, Alucard can go intangible magically), he will keep coming back.
Now, in character, I would like to see proof of Alucard being stupid enough to not using his other powers when his standard go-to attacks don't work. Remember, I am NOT saying he opens the match by flinging Doomsday away. I am saying he will use it only AFTER his other attacks have failed. He'd probably use it even earlier, when he gets bored, as I have shown him using it in battle already.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Does he though? He reforms pretty rapidly.He needs to be kept down for some amount of time for it to be considered a win.