Originally posted by abhilegend
If he gets ripped apart, it's a loss. Doomsday doesn't has to permanently kill him to win.
He reforms instantly, though. It's not like Deadpool/Wolverine who needs to go away for a few minutes/hours to regrow limbs. In some cases, even when his arms were ripped off, he could still control and fire his guns.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Are we applying no limit fallacy here? By that logic, eternals can reform after Blastaar destroyed them Atom by Atom, so they should never lose a fight.
By that logic, BFR is never a win condition with some characters, as they will always come back.
I'm not saying Doomsday rips him apart, then sits and twiddles his thumbs for 5 minutes as Alucard stitches himself back piece by piece.
He rips him apart, he's still laughing and shouting for more, and reforming.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By that logic, BFR is never a win condition with some characters, as they will always come back.I'm not saying Doomsday rips him apart, then sits and twiddles his thumbs for 5 minutes as Alucard stitches himself back piece by piece.
He rips him apart, he's still laughing and shouting for more, and reforming.
Here, he's ripped apart. Still fighting. Of course, if using current versions, we should be using Schroedinger Alucard, against DCnU Doomsday? This version shown here is way before Schroedinger, btw. When he was fighting the Dandy Man, whose cards could negate healing factors. I mention this, because after beating him, Alucard gained his powers as well. Anyways, here he isfighting after being torn apart:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By that logic, BFR is never a win condition with some characters, as they will always come back.I'm not saying Doomsday rips him apart, then sits and twiddles his thumbs for 5 minutes as Alucard stitches himself back piece by piece.
He rips him apart, he's still laughing and shouting for more, and reforming.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Where is the scan of him getting ripped apart ten times and reforming instantly everytime?
He's not even reforming instantly. He's fighting whilst torn apart.
FFS not sure why the links not working, lol.
And its not an eternal stalemate, as Pre-Schroedinger, Alucard had over 3 million 'lives' to use. So if Doomsday killed him 3 million times(it was a larger number than that, but rounded down) then Doomsday would win.
After he gained Schroedinger's powers, he was omnipresent.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Are we applying no limit fallacy here? By that logic, eternals can reform after Blastaar destroyed them Atom by Atom, so they should never lose a fight.
And he has a limit, he has a limited amount of "lives" in his body.
I don't see how this is a no-limits fallacy, he has an explicit limit to his regeneration 😐
It's not no limits.
Here, after he got Schroedinger's powers (at the end of the manga), for the first time, we found out how many 'lives' he had. Earlier in the manga, obviously, he would have many more (before he keeps getting shot up etc):
3,424,867 lives. Would he just stand there and let Doomsday kill him that many times without trying BFR? Not to mention, he had magical playing cards that negated healing factors and could split bullets etc - IOW, other tricks to try. BUT, eventually, he would try BFR.
All this assumes we are NOT using current versions, of course. Current Doomsday, and Current Alucard, to make things even, yes?
Lol. Not to mention, he has the hypersonic, tracking bullet from Van Winkle (who can detach from him and attack independently) and the magical cards from Dandy Man (which could negate healing factors). He gains the powers of anyone's blood he drinks.
Why do I mention this ability of his? It was how he was defeated. He drank the blood of this boy:
What is the range of Alucard's teleportation?
Also, can he teleport people or use TK on them even without a body? Since, Doomsday could kind of just keep stomping him into paste before he even reforms. Thing is, he doesn't actually reform instantly. Very quickly, sure, but if Doomsday was already right on top of him he could just keep squishing the guy. He has no reason to even allow him to regain his form.
I mean it's not like his regeneration is that utterly insane to the point where if you chop the guys arm off another arm will of already grown back in it's place before the chopped off limb even hits the ground.
Originally posted by abhilegendIt's actually one of the best mangas I've read.
Man, that's some boring ass anime if you have to kill the protagonist millions of times to beat him one time.mmm
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There's a manga called One Punch man where the protagonist literally beats people with 1 punch. It's still great.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85could he even phase DD. What feats of damage does he have? What feats showing that he can bfr does he have? Cause he can't do anything worthwhile if he's in pieces. As he reforms DD shreds him again instantly. He dies eventually for good.
Lol. Not to mention, he has the hypersonic, tracking bullet from Van Winkle (who can detach from him and attack independently) and the magical cards from Dandy Man (which could negate healing factors). He gains the powers of anyone's blood he drinks.Why do I mention this ability of his? It was how he was defeated. He drank the blood of this boy:
He can't do a thing here. The only possible option is BFR, assuming he can teleport him far enough away that he can't come back(which would mean teleporting him into space or something). If you took BFR away, Alucard could attack Doomsday for a virtual eternity and not even scratch him. Without BFR, a small baby with no arms and legs has as much a chance at beating Doomsday as Alucard does.
Originally posted by Surtur
What is the range of Alucard's teleportation?Also, can he teleport people or use TK on them even without a body? Since, Doomsday could kind of just keep stomping him into paste before he even reforms. Thing is, he doesn't actually reform instantly. Very quickly, sure, but if Doomsday was already right on top of him he could just keep squishing the guy. He has no reason to even allow him to regain his form.
I mean it's not like his regeneration is that utterly insane to the point where if you chop the guys arm off another arm will of already grown back in it's place before the chopped off limb even hits the ground.
Not teleport - TK.
He throws things with his mind. He was able to TK an aircraft carrier across the Atlantic. Something as (relatively) light as Doomsday will be no problem.
He can exist as magical shadow energy - so immaterial. And whilst immaterial, he could still control his hands etc even after they were blown off.
Originally posted by h1a8
could he even phase DD. What feats of damage does he have? What feats showing that he can bfr does he have? Cause he can't do anything worthwhile if he's in pieces. As he reforms DD shreds him again instantly. He dies eventually for good.
Check earlier pages. And he CAN do stuff when in pieces - that's the whole thing I'm trying to say.
Here, despite having almost no body, and just a head/arms/legs, he can still attack:Edit: none of the links work. Here is a good summary:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/alucard-vs-superman-1526321/
Scroll to post 14.
So he can buy some time with that.