Martial Arts

Started by wuTa60 pages

jeet kune du, i think i spelled it right

Originally posted by StyleTime

There far too many styles to list. You should check out schools in your area and tell us what you have around you. Also, telling us what you are looking for in a style would help too.

i prefer a style with more kickboxing involved...but seems like everyone is doing kickboxing nowadays...im gonna do some research to see what they have in my area.

i do muay thai and karate. Muay thai cool, the elbows and knees are killers.

Originally posted by wuTa
jeet kune du, i think i spelled it right

isn't that the style bruce lee made up? to bad he didn't finish it off before he died. now they have different variations of it because different people finished it in their personal way.

no he finnished it, jeet kune do is many styles roled into one, the point is for you to find the type of style your best with but also know the other styles so you can adopt if needed

aikido, the best 😎

merging with the amrtial arts thread

Originally posted by -hh-
well im thinking about taking a class...but what should i take...

i took Judo when i was 5 years old for about a year, then i took Tae Kwon Do for about 3 years, and played hockey for a while...

i want to go back into training, but dont know what to take up...

any suggestions/recommendations...anything...

the fighting styles which come to my mind are

Judo
Jiu Jitsu
Sambo
Muay Thai
Savate
Kickboxing

...

i've heard of too many different styles

Well, from that list I would have to say Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai are probably the best. And it would be a good combination, Jiu Jitsu working more with speed and throws. Muay Thai on the other hand is slower but much more effective.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Muay Thai kicks are very effective but they aren't fast at all lol. Don't judge the style from Ong Bak(Not saying you are but a lot of people think that is what Muay Thai actually looks like. Real Muay Thai is entirely different from that movie)

I agree. I think they tried to add more acrobatics to the style, which in turn made it better for the movie. Not only that but they used a few other styles aswell in the movie.

i gotta think about this...

im thinking kickboxing or muay thai or something related...

Originally posted by -hh-
i gotta think about this...

im thinking kickboxing or muay thai or something related...

do muay thai, because it's cool. as well as gymnastics so you can do flips and stuff in ong bak. thats what i do, and also karate. And muay thai isn't that slow some of the moves are pretty quick, only the one's you put all your effort into like finishing moves are slowish.

Originally posted by Itzak
Well, from that list I would have to say Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai are probably the best. And it would be a good combination, Jiu Jitsu working more with speed and throws. Muay Thai on the other hand is slower but much more effective.

I agree. I think they tried to add more acrobatics to the style, which in turn made it better for the movie. Not only that but they used a few other styles aswell in the movie.


Judo is better if he wants throws.

Yes, there was much Wushu in that movie.

Originally posted by Dexx
aikido, the best 😎

merging with the amrtial arts thread


Judo > Aikido
Originally posted by -hh-
i gotta think about this...

im thinking kickboxing or muay thai or something related...


Well, there you go. Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and Boxing are pretty much considered the big three styles for striking.
Originally posted by Marvel Boy
do muay thai, because it's cool. as well as gymnastics so you can do flips and stuff in ong bak. thats what i do, and also karate. And muay thai isn't that slow some of the moves are pretty quick, only the one's you put all your effort into like finishing moves are slowish.

I'm talking speed in comparison to other styles. I usually see boxers and kickboxers moving a little more quickly than Muay Thai stylists. Watch Remy Bonjasky(Muay Thai) vs Mirko Filipovic(Kickboxing). Mirko was just too fast for Remy. I'm not saying Muay Thai sucks, I'm just saying speed isn't exactly it's strong point.

Originally posted by StyleTime

Judo > Aikido

One martial art is not necessarily better then another. It depends on the person; any martial artists can defeat a practitioner on any other art.

Originally posted by StyleTime

Well, there you go. Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and Boxing are pretty much considered the big three styles for striking.

Don't forget Tae Kwon Do.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I'm talking speed in comparison to other styles. I usually see boxers and kickboxers moving a little more quickly than Muay Thai stylists. Watch Remy Bonjasky(Muay Thai) vs Mirko Filipovic(Kickboxing). Mirko was just too fast for Remy. I'm not saying Muay Thai sucks, I'm just saying speed isn't exactly it's strong point.

Muay Thai is in fact fast. True Thai Muay Thai is blinding and lethal, unlike that watered-down Americanized crap you see on UFC.

what other styles are there that are related to Kickboxing.

im trying to practice something more related to strikes and less with submission/grapple.

Originally posted by -hh-
what other styles are there that are related to Kickboxing.

im trying to practice something more related to strikes and less with submission/grapple.

AKB (American kickboxing) is actually a hybrid martial art. Tae Kwon Do, tournament style Karate, Tang Soo Do, and Savat, are similar in structre to AKB, as AKB has taken some elements from all of those.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul
One martial art is not necessarily better then another. It depends on the person; any martial artists can defeat a practitioner on any other art.

I used to believe this, but it is simply not true. Judo constantly proves itself in various tournaments including Pride. Pride has the best fighers on Earth, period. Some styles are just....better.

Not to mention Aikido is really just the "powered down" Judo. It stemmed from Judo and didn't take many of the effective throws or grappling moves from it.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul

Don't forget Tae Kwon Do.

I like Tae Kwon Do as well, but don't fool yourself. It is not in the top 3.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul

Muay Thai is in fact fast. True Thai Muay Thai is blinding and lethal, unlike that watered-down Americanized crap you see on UFC.

I am not judging by the UFC. The UFC fighters aren't that great. Watch some Pride,K-1, etc. Japanese tournaments like those have better fighters because they draw from a larger talent pool than UFC. I am judging from actual Thai fighters by the way. The same Thai fighters that loss to Benny Urquidez back when kickboxing was just getting formed. Watch Benny and you will see some of why I say kickboxers generally move more quickly than Thai boxers. Boxing also is faster than Muay Thai. Here's an example.

Like I said, don't judge by the movie. Oh and, I don't like the UFC circuit either, but don't think they don't have some decent people. David Louiseau(black guy) does Muay Thai.

Originally posted by -hh-
what other styles are there that are related to Kickboxing.

im trying to practice something more related to strikes and less with submission/grapple.


Well, the ones I mentioned are your best bet. Otherwise, you might end up in some crappy strip mall dojo/dojang with no contact.

You can also try Kyokushin Karate and its offshoots. They train hard and have had some crazy fighters come and rough up the K-1 tournament before. Andy Hug and Francisco Filho come to mind.

You should probably look into some grappling eventually though.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul
AKB (American kickboxing) is actually a hybrid martial art. Tae Kwon Do, tournament style Karate, Tang Soo Do, and Savat, are similar in structre to AKB, as AKB has taken some elements from all of those.

It's redundant to say American kickboxing since that is where kickboxing came from. America was beginning to limit contact in martial arts around the 60s, but Karate fighters wanted to keep the arts full contact so they came up with this. They recognized that traditional punches were very ineffective up close, so they incorporated boxing into the new style. The style adopted the name, Kickboxing. Some people at the forefront of this were Bill Wallace, Benny Urquidez, and Joe Lewis.

can someone explain more about Savat. like differences and similarities to other fighting styles.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I used to believe this, but it is simply not true. Judo constantly proves itself in various tournaments including Pride. Pride has the best fighers on Earth, period. Some styles are just....better.

Not to mention Aikido is really just the "powered down" Judo. It stemmed from Judo and didn't take many of the effective throws or grappling moves from it.

That's because Judo is more suitable for competitive sport, because its more exciting to watch. They're both equally as practical in a fight though.

No martial art is inherently "better" than another, its all on the individuals.

Originally posted by -hh-
can someone explain more about Savat. like differences and similarities to other fighting styles.

It's a form of French kickfighting. It incorporates a lot of spinning kicks instead of straight kicks (front and side kicks) and it has very elegant, fluid movements and resembles dancing.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul
That's because Judo is more suitable for competitive sport, because its more exciting to watch. They're both equally as practical in a fight though.

No martial art is inherently "better" than another, its all on the individuals.

It's a form of French kickfighting. It incorporates a lot of spinning kicks instead of straight kicks (front and side kicks) and it has very elegant, fluid movements and resembles dancing.

savant sounds interesting.

i think Muay Thai is a bit too intense...and i've done research and it seems that Kickboxing is actually taught differently in different places...it doesn't have a standard teaching.

Originally posted by Frigid Soul
That's because Judo is more suitable for competitive sport, because its more exciting to watch. They're both equally as practical in a fight though.

No martial art is inherently "better" than another, its all on the individuals.

It's a form of French kickfighting. It incorporates a lot of spinning kicks instead of straight kicks (front and side kicks) and it has very elegant, fluid movements and resembles dancing.


If it can't work in a ring, it won't work in a fight. That's what tournaments were made for. Where do you think people try out techniques to see what works and what doesn't? I've seen plenty of things like broken bones in competition where Judo is involved. I'd bank on judo being more effective.

Originally posted by -hh-
savant sounds interesting.

i think Muay Thai is a bit too intense...and i've done research and it seems that Kickboxing is actually taught differently in different places...it doesn't have a standard teaching.


I doubt you'd find many Savate places anywhere but France.

You have to train hard to get good lol. Kickboxing is still only about 30-40 yr old. People still put different spins on it. Aside from some minor changes, kickboxing it still going to be the same across the board.

it's either Kickboxing or Muay Thai

my friend wants to join me, but he doesn't want to take Muay Thai. He says it's more effective than kickboxing but a lot slower.

whats Cro Cop's fighting style? is it Muay Thai?

Originally posted by -hh-
it's either Kickboxing or Muay Thai

my friend wants to join me, but he doesn't want to take Muay Thai. He says it's more effective than kickboxing but a lot slower.

whats Cro Cop's fighting style? is it Muay Thai?


Crocop is a pure kickboxer. He is a prime example of kickboxing at its finest actually. He doesn't really use submissions, he doesn't really grapple, and he never clinches. Actually, he appears to hate clinching more than anything. He also had several pro boxing fights before entering K-1. Crocop, honestly, is probably the best kickboxer in MMA in the world when he is on his game.

About Muay Thai being more effective, that is simply not true. The big three striking styles (Boxing, Kickboxing, and Muay Thai) are pretty much on equal footing when done properly.

Oh another style you could try to find is Kyokushin karate and its offshoots. The only reason it isn't listed amongst the big three is because not many people do it. There have been several great fighters hailing from the style though. Andy Hug(guy in my sig and avatar is one of them.) He is one of my favorite fighters. R.I.P.
Here is a link to a Higlight Reel of his fights. I think the music fits perfectly.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6537200073830375552&q=Andy+Hug