Originally posted by Alpha Centaurilets talk then. I hope it is better than RE4. MAN...what a piece of crap that game was.
We? You don't speak for this forum. What the hell is your problem? It's open for anybody to reply to, you needn't feel I'm here for you. Secondly, why can't you just reply civilly? I posted to you in a civil manner and you reply with hostility. After all this time I'd have thought you'd have the stomach to get over it.Seriously, I'm here to talk about the game, I really don't see why you can't reply civilly.
-AC
If you mean the best game of all time, I agree.
Originally posted by JToTheP
If you say so, meanwhile Wesker has said over and over his hatred for Chris, Jill, and Barry, but sure, she's not a main character. I guess if everyone had been in Code:Veronica and got choked by Wesker, like Claire, they would magically be 'important' in your eyes?
She's not. Chris is because he's been written for. Jill's only other game was a game that as I said, could be removed and not detract from story. Jill is bad enough, but what grounds do you have, right now, for believing Barry to be a main character?
-AC
Right...and Code:Veronica serves any purpose other than to be a bad story with a make-up wearing freak who was obsessed with his twin sister, and obviously there was incest going on. That's right, because any game series needs a game like THAT in the mix. All Code:Veronica did was prove that Wesker was still 'alive' and that he could, but of course didn't get to kick the shit out of Chris and Claire.
And yes AC, of course, you'll go on and on about your hatred for Jill for no damn reason. Meanwhile 3 is a prequel and sequel to 2, but let's nevermind that. Let's focus on the fact that in your opinion Nemesis wasn't a B.O.W. weapon, a Tyrant created to kill the remaining S.T.A.R.S. members. Also, ignore the fact that the ending of 3, is the game in fact, that the city was bombed.
But no, not at all, 3 is NOT important at all, and neither is Jill.
Originally posted by JToThePJill is HAWT.
Right...and Code:Veronica serves any purpose other than to be a bad story with a make-up wearing freak who was obsessed with his twin sister, and obviously there was incest going on. That's right, because any game series needs a game like THAT in the mix. All Code:Veronica did was prove that Wesker was still 'alive' and that he could, but of course didn't get to kick the shit out of Chris and Claire.And yes AC, of course, you'll go on and on about your hatred for Jill for no damn reason. Meanwhile 3 is a prequel and sequel to 2, but let's nevermind that. Let's focus on the fact that in your opinion Nemesis wasn't a B.O.W. weapon, a Tyrant created to kill the remaining S.T.A.R.S. members. Also, ignore the fact that the ending of 3, is the game in fact, that the city was bombed.
But no, not at all, 3 is NOT important at all, and neither is Jill.
Originally posted by JToTheP
Right...and Code:Veronica serves any purpose other than to be a bad story with a make-up wearing freak who was obsessed with his twin sister, and obviously there was incest going on. That's right, because any game series needs a game like THAT in the mix. All Code:Veronica did was prove that Wesker was still 'alive' and that he could, but of course didn't get to kick the shit out of Chris and Claire.
You do realise that the whole part paragraph above, regarding Code: Veronica, is your opinion of the game and story itself, right? That's fine by me if you think that of the game, but the FACT is, it was an integral part of the saga, whether or not you liked it. One was the first, and Chris was the main character, as evident by him appearing in many more games, and being mentioned in more than that. Jill was in one to cash in on the current trend and success of Lara Croft, and they put her in 3 purely for familiarity and fan demand. That could have been ANYBODY, and without three, the story wouldn't have suffered. Without C:V, it would. Like the game or love it, it was integral to the story.
Originally posted by JToTheP
And yes AC, of course, you'll go on and on about your hatred for Jill for no damn reason. Meanwhile 3 is a prequel and sequel to 2, but let's nevermind that. Let's focus on the fact that in your opinion Nemesis wasn't a B.O.W. weapon, a Tyrant created to kill the remaining S.T.A.R.S. members. Also, ignore the fact that the ending of 3, is the game in fact, that the city was bombed.
Hatred for Jill? Who hates her? Not me. I simply said she isn't a main character, she's a fan favourite, the two are not one and the same. She will not be a main character unless Capcom write her an integral part of the RE storyline, then I will come here and admit she is. Until then, her part in the story has amounted to nothing more than an easier difficulty with a cash-in sprite and a role based on familiarity that could have been filled by anybody. I have nothing against the character, Capcom could make her more important than Chris if they wanted to, I'd accept that. As it stands, she's not a main character.
Can you quote me saying Nemesis wasn't a B.O.W? Can you do that? Furthermore, this has nothing to do with Jill. 3 could have never been made and 4/5 would have been possible, 2 wouldn't have been altered. It ADDED nothing, it was just showing you ongoing events. You didn't learn anything new. So Umbrella dispatched Nemesis, so? How does that mean the game added to the story? The story would have been lessened without 3 and Jill starring in it? If that's the case you are making, please show me some reasoning, J.
Show me why Jill is a main character, not why people like her, or what she's done, but why this makes her a "main character.". One was written for Chris, not Jill. Jill was simply an easier difficulty, and more people like her...coincidence? Or are a lot of people just not that good at Resident Evil?
Originally posted by JToTheP
But no, not at all, 3 is NOT important at all, and neither is Jill.
She isn't, and if you're going to continue claiming so, please provide evidence as to what makes that woman specifically important.
Tell me now what she has added to the story to make her a main character. One was Chris's game, it wasn't HER story, she didn't add anything to the story in her scenario, so that leaves 3. Nothing was added to the story, unless you have a different version to everybody else.
So I'm asking, because I'm curious where you get this from. Nobody is attacking you, but you seem to get vexed whenever anyone proves Jill isn't important THUS FAR, and then retort with snappy sarcasm that proves...well, nothing.
If you have something that proves her to be a main character, not just a well liked one, then I'll concede. Your argument is hitched on what happened in 3, which is basically the story of a survivor trying to get out of Raccoon City, this survivor just happens to be Jill. Nothing happened in that game that specifically required Jill to be there.
Whether or not they have plans to MAKE her a big character, I've got no clue, but as of now, she isn't.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Jill is HAWT.
Which is precisely why many people consider her a main character, because she was there - among other reasons - to cash in on Lara Croft's existence.
People considering her sprite to be sexually attractive does not give her the rights to being a main character.
-AC
It's such a shame that you can't let go something that happened a year ago and just reply on topic, unless it's to someone who won't ask you to prove your unfounded and incorrect claims. I did nothing insulting or trolling in that post and you still reply in such a childish and bitter manner that it leaves me with nothing but pity for you, J. It's a real shame. I'm just gonna move on and leave you with your peers.
Oh well, does anybody else here actually wish to discuss the game/s?
-AC
Originally posted by JToTheP
Lana please, nobody is amused by your picking favorite members and giving the ones you dislike the shaft. That isn't being a proper mod, nobody is amused by how you pretend to moderate this board and point out who you dislike for posts to comment about.
Excuse me?
I am not picking favorites here, nor have I ever. Get that through your head right now. Oh, but is this the same old "mod bias" you always call when someone points something out to you?
Now, if you could point out where the trolling is taking place, and I agree that it is actually trolling (which is making inflammatory posts for the sole purpose of starting a fight - NOT simply having a differing opinion), then I will take action.
But you know what, I'm not seeing any posts like that, other than your one post. Some stuff that's technically off-topic for this thread, but that's all. And you do not speak for the forum, and nobody is amused by how you act like you do.
And for that matter, there is never a need for anyone but a mod to call someone else out. If you have a problem, then use the report button and keep your mouth shut about it in the thread. All that happens by not doing that is perfectly good threads getting ruined.
Originally posted by InnerRise
Let's try and stay on topic ALL OF YOU and not provoke others.Resident Evil 5 won't be coming out until 2009 as of now and no new information has really been released as of late so as far as I'm concerned that's the only problem to be dealt with.
Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....
Capcom confirmed 2009 release? I heard that was just a rumor, and I'm sure throughout this Fall we'll see more information, screenshots, another video possibly, because Capcom wouldn't put out Umbrella Chronicles and not have any new information about their next RE, 5 out.
And hopefully by around Spring-Summer 08' we'll see an early preview, maybe Gamespot will do an early hands-on of a Demo possibly, who knows.
Going with AC's question.
Only RE4. I really like the overall story wit RE games, but I never liked the gameplay. I hated the controls.
Bought the remake of RE, thinking I would like it because I did enjoy playing RE2 on the N64, but I couldnt finish it. I just didnt like the controls.
On the otherhand, RE4 rocks. That is one game I'm putting in my collection of games that I will always play. Currently, Half Life and Far Cry are in the same category.
Just for the record, my favourite RE games were 1 and 4. More four, really.
One's just a great classic, remade on GCN, four takes in a wild new direction.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
She's not. Chris is because he's been written for. Jill's only other game was a game that as I said, could be removed and not detract from story. Jill is bad enough, but what grounds do you have, right now, for believing Barry to be a main character?-AC
I was under the impression that he was blackmailed by Wesker (that actually had turned out to be a bluff) that his family was under watch by Umbrella soldiers and would shoot them unless Barry complied and helped him.