Originally posted by cdtm
Thor didn't refuse to join Bill because he was scared of Galactus's power. He refused because he didn't believe in Bill's quest, and didn't want to abandon Earth for it.
he didn't believe in bill's quest because he gauged the likely hood of success, and measured the opportunity cost if/when bill failed.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Which basically means "even if I had my full strength available to help you, I still would not help you." Great. Thor doesn't think it's right, that's true. That is by no means his only opinion on the matter.
"You. Your vessel. Alone. Can you triumph?" Thor, ever the warrior, asks "Are you confident of defeating Galactus alone with yourself and just your ship?" He doesn't ask whether BRB thinks it's right, he doesn't ask BRB if he thinks it's wise....he's asking BRB if he thinks he can win. That's Thor measuring the extent of BRB's resolve and determination in fighting Galactus and winning. Why would Thor make that statement if he's not putting himself in BRB's shoes to judge whether he can win or not. Why wouldn't he just say "no BRB, this whole course of action isn't right." Clearly, Thor is in doubt of BRB's chances here. He's thinking about a fight, and BRB's chances of lasting in that fight (more on this on the next page). That is Thor's mentality."I ask you one final time, will you stand with me?" Thor looks down at his feet ashamed and comes up with excuses. Can't even look BRB in the eye as he lists them.
"But were I in the fullness of my might, I WOULD NOT. This is neither right nor wise"="Even if I had my full powers (and explain it away however you want to interpret that...bottom line is he wouldn't, even if he were 100%) I would not stand with you, BRB. This is neither the right course of action, nor is it the WISE course of action" why wouldn't it be wise? What possible outcome of BRB's quest would prove unwise? I.E., why is Thor indirectly telling BRB that it's a stupid idea to challenge Galactus with himself and his ship?"I ask you, for my sake, for the memory of your people, for the lives of all those you'd save if you stay instead of chasing shadows--do not do this!"="I implore you, for the sake of your people, whom Galactus erased from existence, of whom you are the sole remaining survivor in the entire universe, for the sake of all the people you would save if you remain alive instead of seeking probable death, and consequently condemn those people to their own deaths if you are not around to save them, do not do this!"
BRB gets exasperated with Thor and just flies off while giving his reply ("and for all their sakes, I must"😉. Thor doesn't chase after him, even after giving that impassioned plea.
Originally posted by Angel Watching
Galactus, Celestials are pawns to his equal Eternity
Galactus is no where near as powerful as Eternity..in the Infinity Saga..Thanos said that all the other abstract is Eternity foot soldier..guess what..Galactus is among those abstract..and in Marvel The End..Eternity,Infinity and LT was the last to resist being absorb by Thanos..did u see Galactus beside them??he is there equal in status..as he is one of the most important abstract and they are like siblings..not that his power is equal..
Originally posted by Bentley
Feats?
erm..i don't have any for Arishem..but a weaken Tiamut was able to warp time and space back for several billion years..Arishem is at least equal to a weaken Tiamut cuz he is the leader of a host after all..
Originally posted by galactusischere
Still this. Arishem has done nothing that leads me to believe that he can defeat Galactus.
Arishem is at least equal to the Celestials that ignored a multi Skyfather attack and shrugged off attacks from an Asgard Inhabited Destroyer, isn't he?
I can't see Galactus doing that. At least. not at his standard power levels.
Originally posted by cdtm
Arishem is at least equal to the Celestials that ignored a multi Skyfather attack and shrugged off attacks from an Asgard Inhabited Destroyer, isn't he?I can't see Galactus doing that. At least. not at his standard power levels.
I would like to point out that the powerlevel Odin, Vishnu and Zeus portrayed during that incident was only enough to blast a planet out of orbit. I'm sorry but that is what a high herald level character is capable of accomplish on his own. It wasn't him but another Celestial but surfice to say Arishem shouldn't be hurt by it either, however there is fairly little that at the current moment suggest Galactus would either.
