Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
For that matter, Melee wasn't as good as it could've been either. They could've made an original moveset for Ganondorf and all that, but they didn't.
Oh yeah because giving a hidden character different moves would have increased sells by the millions. 🙄 🙄
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
You're just making excuses as to why Melee out-sold Sunshine. Barely or not, it still out-sold it regardless, fair & square.
Really? Because 64 outsold SSB 2 to 1. What's the excuse there?
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
And what's wrong with that? The same could be said about Galaxy (that it was basically Super Mario 64, but with a star that allowed you to spin).
Let's see besides the usage of gravity to change gameplay and the motion controls Galaxy is vastly different then Sunshine. Brawl on the other hand will be Melee with just a new item and a new character here and there. Heck they even have some of the same levels.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
When Brawl out-sales every other Wii game on the market, I'm just going to say "I told you so".
Yeah okay. We'll see.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Seems Sunshine isn't really as appreciated as it should be. It was a great game too.
No...comparing it to other Mario games like SMB3, 64, and Galaxy; Sunshine is a horrible game.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Brawl's not like the other Wii games you mentioned, or like the ones from other consoles released so far. It's in a league of its own.
Nope. There are other games like Brawl that won't change anything about the game except adding in a new item here and there...the Halo series comes to mind with that.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Galaxy's got Mario & Luigi for you to play as.
Brawl on the other hand has Mario, Snake, Donkey Kong, Sonic (oh em gee), Samus, etc. Not to mention, it'll have approx. around 30 stages or so. More than what Galaxy had.
Hell. Brawl even has a create your own stage feature, among other things.
Congrats. But here's the difference: while Brawl is just fighting Galaxy actually takes usage of the Wii. Brawl is just a beefed up version of Melee. Nothing else. Mario takes gameplay to a new level; Brawl doesn't do anything new. Mario uses the Wii controls without abusing them and makes them work perfectly with the game. Not to mention that Galaxy has 42 different Galaxies never before seen...while Brawl needs to use already created stages. Heck all the stages on Brawl are basically just dumbed down knock offs of stages from Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. games.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
SMG does, in no way, surpass Brawl in terms of overall gameplay.The updates on the dojo website show enough to know already.
SMG kills Brawl. Heck SMG went up against BioShock, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and many other titles (2007...best year for gaming) and it won more awards then any other games. Brawl will fail compared to SMG. It will be surprising if it manages to outsell TP or Melee for that matter.
Originally posted by ESB -1138You say that like it's a bad thing.
Heck they even have some of the same levels.
Just wow.
You're so blinded by Super Mario that you are finding problems where there aren't any just to have something negative to say in defense of Mario.
Think about it......if Mario is as great as you think it is and if it is so much more better than any other game then it really shouldn't need any defending.
anata wa wakarimasu ka....
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Oh yeah because giving a hidden character different moves would have increased sells by the millions. 🙄 🙄
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Really? Because 64 outsold SSB 2 to 1. What's the excuse there?
SM 64 was a launch title, while SSB didn't come out 'till near the end of the N64 era, so of course SM 64 would get more sales than SSB.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Let's see besides the usage of gravity to change gameplay and the motion controls Galaxy is vastly different then Sunshine
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic07.html
(Brawl can be used with Gamecube controllers too BTW.)
As for the usage of gravity that you mentioned, it's not all that new either. Plenty of games have had that before.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Brawl on the other hand will be Melee with just a new item and a new character here and there.
For one thing, unlike SSB 64 and Melee, Brawl actually has a story to it (the Subspace Emissary). It's not just "another Melee with a new item here and there", or anything like that, especially since you haven't played it yet.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Heck they even have some of the same levels.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
No...comparing it to other Mario games like SMB3, 64, and Galaxy; Sunshine is a horrible game.
Sure, it didn't have the same Mario feel as some of the others, but I still had a great time and overall good experience with the game.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Brawl doesn't do anything new.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/basic/basic02.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/assist01.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea01.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/technique03.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pokemon_trainer.html#pokemon_change
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various03.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/howto/technique/technique05.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music08.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various04.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi01.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea06.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/stage15.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various10.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi02.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi04.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various17.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various19.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/item13.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various20.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/wi-fi/wi-fi05.html
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various22.html
Cool. I didn't know Melee and SSB had all those features!
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Not to mention that Galaxy has 42 different Galaxies never before seen...
When it comes down to it, most of the environments in Galaxy aren't anymore original than most of Brawl's stages.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Brawl will fail compared to SMG. It will be surprising if it manages to outsell TP or Melee for that matter.
But really. I guess you will be surprised at how well Brawl will sell since you seem to underestimate it so much all of a sudden.
I can't believe you or anyone whose been checking out the daily Brawl updates over the months would actually say that the game has "nothing new", or that it's just "a beefed up Melee".
Originally posted by InnerRise
You say that like it's a bad thing.Just wow.
You're so blinded by Super Mario that you are finding problems where there aren't any just to have something negative to say in defense of Mario.
Think about it......if Mario is as great as you think it is and if it is so much more better than any other game then it really shouldn't need any defending.
anata wa wakarimasu ka....
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Oh yeah because giving a hidden character different moves would have increased sells by the millions. 🙄 🙄Really? Because 64 outsold SSB 2 to 1. What's the excuse there?
Let's see besides the usage of gravity to change gameplay and the motion controls Galaxy is vastly different then Sunshine. Brawl on the other hand will be Melee with just a new item and a new character here and there. Heck they even have some of the same levels.
Yeah okay. We'll see.
No...comparing it to other Mario games like SMB3, 64, and Galaxy; Sunshine is a horrible game.
Nope. There are other games like Brawl that won't change anything about the game except adding in a new item here and there...the Halo series comes to mind with that.
Congrats. But here's the difference: while Brawl is just fighting Galaxy actually takes usage of the Wii. Brawl is just a beefed up version of Melee. Nothing else. Mario takes gameplay to a new level; Brawl doesn't do anything new. Mario uses the Wii controls without abusing them and makes them work perfectly with the game. Not to mention that Galaxy has 42 different Galaxies never before seen...while Brawl needs to use already created stages. Heck all the stages on Brawl are basically just dumbed down knock offs of stages from Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc. games.
SMG kills Brawl. Heck SMG went up against BioShock, Halo 3, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and many other titles (2007...best year for gaming) and it won more awards then any other games. Brawl will fail compared to SMG. It will be surprising if it manages to outsell TP or Melee for that matter.
Brawl has more on offer then Galaxy, you have a challenge mode, 30 stages + apparently 40/50 fighters, great music and best of all a stage editor that's good enough for me; worth the money, still I am not denying or insulting SMG its a brilliant game, it's just if Brawl lives up to it's hype then it will be the better game.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Galaxy is pretty much EVERYONES GOTY.
Meh. Although I got Galaxy for Christmas, I didn't really start playing it until shortly after 2008. 😛
But yeah. Out of the games I've been playing a lot this year (which isn't much so far), SMG definitely takes the cake.