Originally posted by Lightsnake
How long did the Jedi have? They didn't discover the Dark Side and start fighting from day one, Xendor led the Legions of Lettow for quite some time, too. The Dark siders on Corbos abandoned themselves to darkness before the war, which lasted a century...hell, the New Sith Empire had a nice one thousand years to learn, and Bane's order had the knowledge prior.
Irrelevant missdirections much ? How long did those people live ? Answer: You don't know. Point: You have no point.
How old was Ragnos when he defeated Simus? How young was he? For all we know, he was a callow, skilled youth with power the others didn't dream about, or he was a wise, experienced ruler...either way, we don't know much about Sith lifespans, and the Jedi on corbos were fighting for a century, how long had they been practicing the Dark Side? Also, where was it said Ragnos knew everything beforehand? And my point before was: How was the 'Golden Age' the 'pinnacle of the Sith', when Sith succeeding them achieved a lot more in dominating and defeat of their great enemies?
Given that we see nobody with less than a century of age in the Sith Council in GAotS (at least Sadow and Kressh are clearly that old) it's quite save to assume that Simus and Ragnos did have a similar age when they fought for the title, giving Ragnos around 200 years of age when he died.
How many of the Jedi on Corbus did live longer than a century like the Sith naturally did ?
And the "Golden Age" refers to their abilities. As I've shown - a single female Sith was able to kill all live on Ambria when the same action required the combined power of the leaders of the New Sith Empire.
Where was it said Thon fought an ancient Sith on Ambria? It just says she was a female Sith lord and the date I'm getting is 4002 BBY.
Tales of the Jedi Companion. And 4,002 BBY is the date Oss Willum was taken to Ambria by Thon. The battle must have happened before that same with Thon's action against the Sith spirits on the planet who's dark side energy he contained beneath Lake Natth. And it could only have been an ancient Sith since their were no other Sith after FotSE.
And actually it was Bane alone who deforested Ruusan...problem was, he was aiming for more and the other Sith pulled out, leaving him to finish the attack on his own.
And actually the force bomb was a weapon in contrary to what the female Sith on Ambria used (just a "Dark Side pulse"😉.
And Adas is now suspected to be one of the Sith Kreia mentions in KOTOR. That's the theory going around now
That dumb ass idea to set the beginning of the Sith Empire to 6,900 BBY really starts to unnerve me with all the continuity / storyline problems it produces...
Originally posted by Borbarad
Irrelevant missdirections much ? How long did those people live ? Answer: You don't know. Point: You have no point.Given that we see nobody with less than a century of age in the Sith Council in GAotS (at least Sadow and Kressh are clearly that old) it's quite save to assume that Simus and Ragnos did have a similar age when they fought for the title, giving Ragnos around 200 years of age when he died.
How many of the Jedi on Corbus did live longer than a century like the Sith naturally did ?
And the "Golden Age" refers to their abilities. As I've shown - a single female Sith was able to kill all live on Ambria when the same action required the combined power of the leaders of the New Sith Empire.Tales of the Jedi Companion. And 4,002 BBY is the date Oss Willum was taken to Ambria by Thon. The battle must have happened before that same with Thon's action against the Sith spirits on the planet who's dark side energy he contained beneath Lake Natth. And it could only have been an ancient Sith since their were no other Sith after FotSE.
And actually the force bomb was a weapon in contrary to what the female Sith on Ambria used (just a "Dark Side pulse"😉.
That dumb ass idea to set the beginning of the Sith Empire to 6,900 BBY really starts to unnerve me with all the continuity / storyline problems it produces...
And you have no point on how long the Ancients lived. And the ages of the other Sith on the council is never stated, Sadow and Kressh are at least a hundred years old, but it's unknown just how old they were when Ragnos became dark lord. And we've seen plenty of species naturally live well over a century. And according to Ragnos, the 'Golden Age' referred to their wealth and empire...once more, where was it said that female Sith was an ancient, especially as the date on the thing is 4002? And once more: bane alone deforested Ruusan, the other twenty five or twenty six pulled out and let him finish the attack alone.
And there were no Ancient Sith at 4002. And we're not sure if there were other Sith around, considering KOTOR 2 now. Hell, Knights of the Old Republic said Nadd apprenticed himself to a Dark Lord and left to Onderon when his master was alive.
And force bomb? I was unaware that was the name given to what Bane used...it was just pure dark side energy, the comic made that pretty clear, as opposed to the Thought Bomb.
KJA created enough continuity problems without said decision on his own.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And you have no point on how long the Ancients lived. And the ages of the other Sith on the council is never stated, Sadow and Kressh are at least a hundred years old, but it's unknown just how old they were when Ragnos became dark lord. And we've seen plenty of species naturally live well over a century. And according to Ragnos, the 'Golden Age' referred to their wealth and empire...once more, where was it said that female Sith was an ancient, especially as the date on the thing is 4002? And once more: bane alone deforested Ruusan, the other twenty five or twenty six pulled out and let him finish the attack alone.And there were no Ancient Sith at 4002. And we're not sure if there were other Sith around, considering KOTOR 2 now. Hell, Knights of the Old Republic said Nadd apprenticed himself to a Dark Lord and left to Onderon when his master was alive.
And force bomb? I was unaware that was the name given to what Bane used...it was just pure dark side energy, the comic made that pretty clear, as opposed to the Thought Bomb.
KJA created enough continuity problems without said decision on his own.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Really, now. Before I set my TD settings to ignore, just ask Nai what he thinks of some of your arguments
Why would I do that? What does that have to do with anything? Nai knows I **** around all the time and he gives me shit for it? So what? My arguments with you are easy, since I argue facts and you argue against facts, throwing in irrelevant crap while at it. If I had the time, patience, and knowledge that the 3-4 of these guys on this forum have, you wouldn't be coming back here anymore.
Originally posted by Lightsnake
And you have no point on how long the Ancients lived. And the ages of the other Sith on the council is never stated, Sadow and Kressh are at least a hundred years old, but it's unknown just how old they were when Ragnos became dark lord.
You mean the same Sadow who "remembers that fight very well" when the only people who would have seen it (judging by the situations in the comics) would have been the other Sith Council members ? The same Sadow who was still alive when Nadd came across Yavin 4 ? Yes I don't know how old they are exactly but given the fact that they prolonged their life for "centuries" 200+ years would be a pretty nice guess, wouldn't it ?
And we've seen plenty of species naturally live well over a century.
We do ? How many species did you see whos members lifespan clearly exceeds several centuries in the "flashbacks" we see in the TOTJ comics ? I've seen mostly humans there...
And according to Ragnos, the 'Golden Age' referred to their wealth and empire...once more, where was it said that female Sith was an ancient, especially as the date on the thing is 4002? And once more: bane alone deforested Ruusan, the other twenty five or twenty six pulled out and let him finish the attack alone.
First: The Golden Age refers to anything according to Anderson himself so why discuss about wealth and size of their empire ? What else would the female Sith have been if not an ancient since we didn't have any other Sith for the time period between FotSE and DLotS. Notice how Ambria has "Sith spirits" on the surface and is noticed to have belonged to the Ancient Sith Empire. What else would be there ?
And there were no Ancient Sith at 4002. And we're not sure if there were other Sith around, considering KOTOR 2 now. Hell, Knights of the Old Republic said Nadd apprenticed himself to a Dark Lord and left to Onderon when his master was alive.
There was no new Sith at 4,002 and that just leaves an "ancient" one. Using a fan theory to back up your statement that is based on another theory ingame is quite moot. And Nadd did what ? Nadd did went to conquer Onderon because there was another Sith Lord alive. Possibly Sadow on Yavin 4 which Nadd wasn't able to defeat ?
And force bomb? I was unaware that was the name given to what Bane used...it was just pure dark side energy, the comic made that pretty clear, as opposed to the Thought Bomb.
Err...I was still talking about Kaan and the thought bomb (which was responsible for killing the live on Ruusan).
KJA created enough continuity problems without said decision on his own.
Where ? The only pieces of EU present at the time Anderson started writing the TOTJ comics / JA trilogy were the first DE comics, the Thrawn trilogy and SotME. The continuity problems were created by other people...
LOL.. Another interesting read. Except for the Nadd part.. I believe Nadd went to Onderon because he couldn't defeat the current DLOTS.. By the time Nadd was around Sadow was not the DLOTS obviously, and it is highly logical to assume that Nadd did indeed Kill Sadow, took his amulets, and traveled to Onderon, or something like that. But then, who in the world was the DLOTS at that time if the Sith Empire was extinct?
He says he remembers it, that's all. We've had SW characters who remember things from childhood on. And Sadow went into hibernation tp preserve his life on Yavin. Once more, there's nothing else going for the other Sith council members with age.
Humans, no...Barabel, Falleen, Yuuzhan Vong, Gen'Dai, Hutts, Yoda's race, and others can live ages.
We now know from KOTOR there's another, very old Sith empire apart from Sadow's, the 'True sith Empire'. We know the Ancient Sith were completely extinct as Sadow was the last of them, but Nadd also journied into a Sith empire and got training there before he left after he couldn't become the Dark Lord. And Nadd KILLED Sadow on Yavin 4, that's been confirmed. Knights of the Old Republic says Nadd was apprenticed to a Dark Lord of the Sith and fled to Onderon because his master was still alive and Sadow is confirmed dead by that point
The thought bomb killed the Sith and Jedi, Bane's blast turned the planet into a desert, two different events.
And KJA's created plenty of inconsistencies in his own stories, or at least he and Veitch have between them.