Doomsday vs. Hercules (full god)

Started by olympian5 pages

"consistantly tags superman, tied up ww in her lasso faster than she could react.. took out flash while flash was coming up from behind... "

"Wars" version obviously wins. No one said otherwise.

Its the DOS that fails to hit the mark. Even if it was impressive against Byrne Superman.

Originally posted by jinzin
first off he never broke a claw on superman in the aformentioned dos.. superman STOMPED it off.. there's a difference.. i can run someone through with an immitation sword but if they get ahold of it and break it over their knee well.... okay maybe that's not a good example but the fact still remains... the way he broke his claw is practically identical to how he did so in supes 175 and incomparible to what supes did to him in DOS.... his claws breaking wasn't the result of making initial impact with superman in dos.. with rex however it was.. the whole claw issue actually helps my debate more than yours...

no it's not... in supes 175 he at least had the upperhand on supes for a bit...and took supes primary puches with little to no effect at all.....

he had fire breath...... 😕

batman's put martians down with fire... not really impressed...


Prior to the fire breath Rex took 3 of J'onn's best hits to no effect and then brought him to his knees. Not mention he blocked his telepathy. How is that not better than the DOS showing? J'onn was much weaker in DOS and he was hardly taken out of that fight. Not that it matters but DD never actually beat Maxima either. DD put J'onn down again in Villains United amongst a group of others. No matter what you fail to answer for that. The fact that Superman is the one who constantly beats him just proves my original point.

-"no it's not... in supes 175 he at least had the upperhand on supes for a bit...and took supes primary puches with little to no effect at all....."

Wouldn't that along with the showing against J'onn prove Rex wasn't inherently weaker than any other version? Not to mention Rex and Gog Wars are implied to be the same clone.

Originally posted by Validus
Prior to the fire breath Rex took 3 of J'onn's best hits to no effect and then brought him to his knees. Not mention he blocked his telepathy. How is that not better than the DOS showing?

the question is how IS it better? NOTHING the entirety of the JLA did to doomsday in DOS effected the guy... they stalled him (barely) and ripped his clothing.... Maxima knocked him around but that didn't last long and she didn't manage to hurt him anyways.... infact, superman states that when he breaks DD's knee bone claww that he's FINALLY managed to hurt the guy.... this implies NOTHING anyone did up to that point hurt DD.... the fact that MM's punches had no effect doesn't prove this is better showing... 😕
as for him being on his knees. so what? he was overpowered in brute strength.. still not enough to make this a better showing than DOS... DOS dd did this with a fair amount of ease to as I recall...
and there's no telling how that fight would have ended.. to assume that he had already lost is somewhat jumping the gun on an ambiguous panal which can't be supported for your argument or mine.

Originally posted by Validus
J'onn was much weaker in DOS and he was hardly taken out of that fight.
DD didn't have fire breath and he didn't stay long enough TO be taken out... still doesn't prove that rex's showing is better than DOS....

Originally posted by Validus
Not that it matters but DD never actually beat Maxima either.
no but he was gaining the upperhand on both her and supes by the time she pulled that stunt at the gas station... long story short.. DD's durability>>>supes and maxima...

Originally posted by Validus
DD put J'onn down again in Villains United amongst a group of others.

did he? I don't remember that.. but scans please?

Originally posted by Validus
No matter what you fail to answer for that. The fact that Superman is the one who constantly beats him just proves my original point.

the only time aside from DOS that supes could even threaten dd was when he was fighting the rex version of the character... which proves my original point...

-"no it's not... in supes 175 he at least had the upperhand on supes for a bit...and took supes primary puches with little to no effect at all....."

Originally posted by Validus
Wouldn't that along with the showing against J'onn prove Rex wasn't inherently weaker than any other version?

😕 no..... no it wouldn't..... all it proves was that rex could take a few punches when the fight started.. it proves that his showing against supes was SLIGHTLY better in 175 than in IC... but it doesn't prove that he isn't inherintly weaker since NO other DD with the exception of rex as been so easily put down....

Originally posted by Validus
Not to mention Rex and Gog Wars are implied to be the same clone.
[/B][/QUOTE] kinda... but you're ignoring a very important fact.. in apocolips now DD rex was vaporised into primodial ooze.... the DD that evolved from that was gog wars dd who took on the physical characteristics of his former self while retaining his intelligence and losing his "fear" of superman.... DD rex is what existed before that evolution took place...

which brings up a question.. where did this DD come from? in gog wars and the storyline thereof he's said to have traveled for some time before ever getting back to earth to fight gog and his army... but this dd shows up WELL before that ever takes place...

i dunno there's a lot of shady things in that comic... like bane.. when the hell did he get back on the venom? hell he was clean even in no man's land but he's back on the juice now?
finally I'm not sure that the DD that fought in IC WAS lacking intelligence as you said.. sure he didn't say anything.. but he was sentient enough to pick sides... I don't know... I got a lot of questions and I don't think DC's gonna be giving answers anytime soon.

I say Hercules in New York will win this HA HA HA HA

Arnold power makes it easy to win. He will just rip his shirt and show the upsart who has the real muscles.