Superboy Prime vs. The Void

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And what did the Avengers do to Void? Thor, Iron Man, and Cap are the ones who attacked him and made him feel anything. One High Herald, a High Meta/Low Herald (depending on how high you rank the armor), and a street leveler.

Prime took damage from MULTIPLE herald class beings, even if he didn't engage them in combat for a prolonged time.

😕 The only time Cap and Ironman caused any damage towards Void was when they were amped to unknown levels. I'm not downing Prime showings because he is durable as hell but are you saying that Prime can take a hit from Superman without feeling it? What hits did Prime take that was high herald level leading to him tanking it?

Originally posted by carver9
I've seen it at least 4 times and thats not including the times that it was posted on this site.

What impressive did he do during infinite crisis?

I'm being serious PR because I'm trying to see what you are talking about because I could be missing something.

you read the tales of the sinestro corps prime issue, right?

that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were amped by the norn stones and it obviously made them a lot more powerful.

We have seen the Sentry be unable to die and this has been backed by the writer so we know despite him not being attacked by 7200 gl's what he's capable of. We saw the MM try to defeat him and fail. The guy's just a force. You want to nitpick over siege and ignore the writer's intentions and his prior history while trying to downplay it.

Norn Stones do not a high herald, make. Hood with Norn Stones was no where near a high herald. He was a high meta at BEST.

So, no, Void didn't tank or deal with more than what Prime did during SCW.

And please, don't even begin to imply that Void can solo the Green Lantern Corps.

I'm not nitpicking over Siege. I'm using WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE ACTUAL COMIC as a basis for my arguments. Try it sometime.

Originally posted by carver9
😕 The only time Cap and Ironman caused any damage towards Void was when they were amped to unknown levels. I'm not downing Prime showings because he is durable as hell but are you saying that Prime can take a hit from Superman without feeling it? What hits did Prime take that was high herald level leading to him tanking it?

Unknown levels my ass.

Look at what Hood did with the Norn Stones. And he's <<<<< High Herald. Now take that same effect and split it among the rag tag team of heroes present. Hell, Norn Stones weren't even all that great back in the day when they were used in Thor comics. So don't try to imply that with the Norn Stones Cap and Iron Man became even close to High Heralds.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you read the tales of the sinestro corps prime issue, right?

that.

LOL, so you are referring to him taking out the GL's?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Norn Stones do not a high herald, make. Hood with Norn Stones was no where near a high herald. He was a high meta at BEST.

So, no, Void didn't tank or deal with more than what Prime did during SCW.

And please, don't even begin to imply that Void can solo the Green Lantern Corps.

I'm not nitpicking over Siege. I'm using WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE ACTUAL COMIC as a basis for my arguments. Try it sometime.

Sp? Void can't die unless he wants to, featguy.

He sure can.

We saw it and the writer told us he only loses when he wants to and can come back when he wants to.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Unknown levels my ass.

Look at what Hood did with the Norn Stones. And he's <<<<< High Herald. Now take that same effect and split it among the rag tag team of heroes present. Hell, Norn Stones weren't even all that great back in the day when they were used in Thor comics. So don't try to imply that with the Norn Stones Cap and Iron Man became even close to High Heralds.

The thing you fail to realize is that LOKI was guiding these stones. Now if you look at what loki amps has done in the past you'll see that this was unknown amps. Example, Loki amping Surfer (when he was fighting Thor) and this was without the stones.

It was an amp, and Thor, who already has skyfather level feats with his hammer was amped as well and that hammer toss went straight through Void.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He defeated Loki with the norn stones. Loki has defeated Beta Ray Bill and a few friends without an amp.

Sp? Void can't die unless he wants to, featguy.

He sure can.

We saw it and the writer told us he only loses when he wants to and can come back when he wants to.

Loki's also been beaten by Thor, as you like to claim so feverishly. The point is, the Norn Stones don't amp people to extreme degrees like you want to claim.

Uh huh.

facepalm x 7200

He also saw Void turn into Bob. So, yeah. There's a bit of a disconnect here if I saw one.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, so you are referring to him taking out the GL's?

no. the heroes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And please, don't even begin to imply that Void can solo the Green Lantern Corps.

The most powerful of the corpse got taken out in one panel by black mary (kyle) so I'm pretty sure that Void could mess them up without breaking a sweat. Especially if they fight him in the same fashion they fought Prime.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki's also been beaten by Thor, as you like to claim so feverishly. The point is, the Norn Stones don't amp people to extreme degrees like you want to claim.

Uh huh.

facepalm x 7200

He also saw Void turn into Bob. So, yeah. There's a bit of a disconnect here if I saw one.

Again, Loki was guiding these stones and we have already seen what an amp from Loki can do. Didnt void mention them being amped and thats when he took out Loki. The amp must been to a degree that it made Void realize it since the team wasnt doing damage before.

Originally posted by carver9
Again, Loki was guiding these stones and we have already seen what an amp from Loki can do. Didnt void mention them being amped and thats when he took out Loki. The amp must been to a degree that it made Void realize it since the team wasnt doing damage before.

Even if we assume that amp took Thor and the gang to High Herald + levels, all that does is prove that Void can be damaged and concerned enough with taking said damage that he wants to eliminate source of threat. And based on what the same Norn Stones did while under Bendis' writing, I have no reason to believe that they turned everyone there into High Heralds.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Even if we assume that amp took Thor and the gang to High Herald + levels, all that does is prove that Void can be damaged and concerned enough with taking said damage that he wants to eliminate source of threat. And based on what the same Norn Stones did while under Bendis' writing, I have no reason to believe that they turned everyone there into High Heralds.

I agree, I do think he can be damaged to a point of no healing BUT I dont think what was done during that story was enough damage unless for some strange reason Void was weakened.

Thor hit Sentry/Void with that exact same hit and void TANKED it. Thor put all the power he had in that hit which lit up the sky and created lightning the same way and it didnt do anything to the Void but yet, we have Thor hitting him with that SAME hammer shot and he dies (this hammer shot might had a little bit more power to it but again, Void tanked the first one). Then we have void being blown up to none existence at least 3 times and him recovering with ease. The guy got his face shot off, etc... but a hammer shot kills him. You are underestimating his durability.

Prime didnt go through the things Sentry has been through, not even CLOSE, so you all stating that Prime durability>Void is just wrong.

I dont know what level Loki put them at but I do know one thing, when loki amped Surfer, he was going through Thor like nothing and that was without the stones.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He sure can.

Well, my Void vs. GLC thread got closed presumably for spite just as quickly as my Thanos vs. GLC thread got closed. I guess you'd be wrong, then.

Originally posted by carver9
The most powerful of the corpse got taken out in one panel by black mary (kyle) so I'm pretty sure that Void could mess them up without breaking a sweat. Especially if they fight him in the same fashion they fought Prime.

black mary isn't a low showing.

kyle isn't the most powerful.

and no, they wouldn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
black mary isn't a low showing.

kyle isn't the most powerful.

and no, they wouldn't.

I know Black Mary isnt a low showing but Void is easily>>>>her.

Hal is but Kyle is almost there and he got taken out in one panel by a blitz.

I think they would. Did they even use there powers against him. I need to go back and look at it but from my memory, they were trying to physically fight him. I cant remember them shooting a blast. I'm about to go look.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Loki's also been beaten by Thor, as you like to claim so feverishly. The point is, the Norn Stones don't amp people to extreme degrees like you want to claim.

Uh huh.

facepalm x 7200

He also saw Void turn into Bob. So, yeah. There's a bit of a disconnect here if I saw one.

Thor got beat up by the ufoes.

In one instance after a prolonged battle during the perfect storm of events to send him over the deep end.

Context.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, my Void vs. GLC thread got closed presumably for spite just as quickly as my Thanos vs. GLC thread got closed. I guess you'd be wrong, then.

The GLC would devastate Void, let's be honest. And Prime would be, too. He killed a couple dozen or so, iirc. And they were trying to halt him instead of outright killing him. Thousands of GL's working in tandem would wreck most people short of abstracts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care who says so we have seen a pre dos DD ravage the corps and Prime take out 30 plus and damage Hal himself in about three minutes.

"I don't care" pretty much sums up every point or argument you've attempted to make concerning your pet characters.

30+ GL's <<<<< the Entire Corps.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The GLC would devastate Void, let's be honest. And Prime would be, too. He killed a couple dozen or so, iirc. And they were trying to halt him instead of outright killing him. Thousands of GL's working in tandem would wreck most people short of abstracts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I realize that but Loki's a pretty formidable and powerful character. He was amped and the Void just crushed him. Thor can't crush Loki in the same manner as easily as the Void after taking on an entire team of characters which consisted of Thor himself.

Thor got beat up by the ufoes.

In one instance after a prolonged battle during the perfect storm of events to send him over the deep end.

Context. I don't care who says so we have seen a pre dos DD ravage the corps and Prime take out 30 plus and damage Hal himself in about three minutes.

The Corp really isnt that impressive, especially the ones that Prime was fighting.