Superboy Prime vs. The Void

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, I tried.

Honestly, Quan. Be reasonable. Void beating Molecule Man and overpowering him happened once, correct? Likewise, Void took enough damage to turn into Bob once, correct? I can't tell if you're just being thick on purpose or honestly don't see what you just did. You very well can't ignore what was shown in recent comics - as we use the most current forms of said characters unless other specified per forum rules - and in the same breath cite a one time high end feat as the norm. It's hypocrisy.

The only thing legendary here, is your Quanuevers.

Every other showing of the Void in control since the first arc had him dominate. Look at the bigger picture not just one feat while dismissing the context behind the entire story.

You can't ignore the events which led to him unraveling and his history prior to and just focus on one showing to determine the manner in which he loses the majority of a forum battle.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
In the Takion vs Prime thread, you said

So, retcon punches are ok here.

But, not faster than Glads, huh?

????

Hahaha. Never saw that. Quanchi's self serving arguments are hilarious when their turned against him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha. Never saw that. Quanchi's self serving arguments are hilarious when their turned against him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Void appeared multiple times and faced multiple threats and only once reverted into Bob. I mean can't you see that? The Void has been calling the shots how long and to make matters worse he became more unstable really after his wife was murdered to these recent events coupled with this made it the perfect storm for him so revert.

Every other showing of the Void in control since the first arc had him dominate. Look at the bigger picture not just one feat while dismissing the context behind the entire story.

You can't ignore the events which led to him unraveling and his history prior to and just focus on one showing to determine the manner in which he loses the majority of a forum battle.

Right. He turned into Bob once just like he beat Molecule Man once. Ergo, the likelihood of both happening in a comic based on the occurrences of both feats are pretty slim. His instability is ingrained in his character, and per forum rules, we're using Siege Void by default as it's the most current version of the character, especially prior to death.

He dominated threats, sure, but not on Molecule Man's level, so no, I don't see how you can just use his single one time "uber" feat as a steady argument of him beating everyone.

I'm not. I'm using Void as a whole, including the Sentry bits, as like you've said, they're the same person. So, explain to me how current Void, per Siege, can't be given enough damage to shock him into turning into Bob?

so i guess Prime wins this battle then

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Right. He turned into Bob once just like he beat Molecule Man once. Ergo, the likelihood of both happening in a comic based on the occurrences of both feats are pretty slim. His instability is ingrained in his character, and per forum rules, we're using Siege Void by default as it's the most current version of the character, especially prior to death.

He dominated threats, sure, but not on Molecule Man's level, so no, I don't see how you can just use his single one time "uber" feat as a steady argument of him beating everyone.

I'm not. I'm using Void as a whole, including the Sentry bits, as like you've said, they're the same person. So, explain to me how current Void, per Siege, can't be given enough damage to shock him into turning into Bob?

Other thing you seem to be not focusing on is the fact he fought various opponents and didn't just focus on one opponent which he does here. Void wins.

Prime isnt beating Void. I cant see that happening; and when did Prime take on all of earth heros by himself? I hope you all are not referring to the time he got all of the heros off of him that was crowding him because thats not fight. Are you referring to the time he fought the titans. Show me a scan of him taking on all of these power houses.

Originally posted by carver9
Prime isnt beating Void. I cant see that happening; and when did Prime take on all of earth heros by himself? I hope you all are not referring to the time he got all of the heros off of him that was crowding him because thats not fight. Are you referring to the time he fought the titans. Show me a scan of him taking on all of these power houses.

you just referenced the times and said you hoped they werent those, but then asked for something else.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you just referenced the times and said you hoped they werent those, but then asked for something else.

What powerful heroes was there to make you think he is so much more powerful than Void? I have seen the fight and I didnt see much.

The titans; come on now PR, the titans.

Originally posted by carver9
What powerful heroes was there to make you think he is so much more powerful than Void? I have seen the fight and I didnt see much.

The titans; come on now PR, the titans.

i wasnt talking about the titans.

Okay. Who in Siege did Void beat that is = or > than what Prime dealt with in SCW? I'm not asking if Void can beat Prime, but I'm asking, specifically, what did Void do featwise in Siege that is > than what Prime did in the SCW arc?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay. Who in Siege did Void beat that is = or > than what Prime dealt with in SCW? I'm not asking if Void can beat Prime, but I'm asking, specifically, what did Void do featwise in Siege that is > than what Prime did in the SCW arc?

Now the Void was actually beating the avengers and Loki interfered giving them all an amp. Void turned his attention to Loki and he died like what. That's what the Void is capable of when he wants to. Prime isn't. Prime wasn't capable of the damage or the power of the Void at all. Void could kill you when he wanted to while Prime can't. Overall it was a much more impressive showing for the Void.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here's the point carver is making. While Prime did face a more impressive roster overall which is your point and always has been at no point in this comic did he look to be winning or prevailing. He was fleeing from most of the enemies and didn't really damage any of the impressive characters he faced.

Now the Void was actually beating the avengers and Loki interfered giving them all and amp. Void turned his attention to Loki an dhe died like what. Prime wasn't capable of the damage or the power of the Void at all. Void could kill you when he wanted to while Prime can't. Overall it was a much more impressive showing for the Void.

Well, Prime actually forced a skyfather being to kill himself just to BFR him. He was also raping random GLs and Sinestro Corps members (even rookies are low-mid heralds, btw) left and right in addition to duking it with the other Kryptonians. And then there's Ion...

Prime dealt with a LOT more than what Void did.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i wasnt talking about the titans.

Prime didnt fight anyone impressive during the time you are talking about though, he didnt even drop anyone. It was more of a hit and tag. When Superman, Supergirl, and Powergirl got there, they took everything under control. Prime even ran from Powergirls heat vision. I dont remember Prime busting through hero's. The only good showing that I know of is when he fought the GL's. Everything that he did, Black Adam did it in a much more impressive fashion.

Originally posted by carver9
Prime didnt fight anyone impressive during the time you are talking about though, he didnt even drop anyone. It was more of a hit and tag. When Superman, Supergirl, and Powergirl got there, they took everything under control. Prime even ran from Powergirls heat vision. I dont remember Prime busting through hero's. The only good showing that I know of is when he fought the GL's. Everything that he did, Black Adam did it in a much more impressive fashion.

then read it again.

and infinite crisis too.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay. Who in Siege did Void beat that is = or > than what Prime dealt with in SCW? I'm not asking if Void can beat Prime, but I'm asking, specifically, what did Void do featwise in Siege that is > than what Prime did in the SCW arc?

Neither of them did anything that is just OMG impressive. The only thing Prime did was hit and run. The only thing Void did was manhandle fought a low tier avengers team.

I'm basing my judgment off of power set and Void is CLEARLY more powerful. Prime isnt versatile enough to take on Void.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, Prime actually forced a skyfather being to kill himself just to BFR him. He was also raping random GLs and Sinestro Corps members (even rookies are low-mid heralds, btw) left and right in addition to duking it with the other Kryptonians. And then there's Ion...

Prime dealt with a LOT more than what Void did.

Prime took some time and even fought on and didn't beat him right after he was exposed to lead.

Void dealt with earth prior to with Strange and Reed and would have came out on top. The Void is more powerful and can keep coming back with no limits. Prime is just a really strong and powerful flying brick.

And what did the Avengers do to Void? Thor, Iron Man, and Cap are the ones who attacked him and made him feel anything. One High Herald, a High Meta/Low Herald (depending on how high you rank the armor), and a street leveler.

Prime took damage from MULTIPLE herald class beings, even if he didn't engage them in combat for a prolonged time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
then read it again.

and infinite crisis too.

I've seen it at least 4 times and thats not including the times that it was posted on this site.

What impressive did he do during infinite crisis?

I'm being serious PR because I'm trying to see what you are talking about because I could be missing something.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And what did the Avengers do to Void? Thor, Iron Man, and Cap are the ones who attacked him and made him feel anything. One High Herald, a High Meta/Low Herald (depending on how high you rank the armor), and a street leveler.

Prime took damage from MULTIPLE herald class beings, even if he didn't engage them in combat for a prolonged time.

We have seen the Sentry be unable to die and this has been backed by the writer so we know despite him not being attacked by 7200 gl's what he's capable of. We saw the MM try to defeat him and fail. The guy's just a force. You want to nitpick over siege and ignore the writer's intentions and his prior history while trying to downplay it.