Ryu vs wong fei hung

Originally posted by Hoshi
gen is the same class of ryu , not above , the only ones above ryu are: shin akuma , oro, gill . But remember gen just like ryu fought his entire life(he is very old ) against people from all over the world , the only difference between ryu and gen is that ryu fought just to improve himself , while gen fought to kill his opponent by pleasure.
Remember also that gens true power is destroying the internal not the body . He can kill a person today and the person will day a week later (yeah, it is strange !!) .

Gen has never fought people all over the world and he's above ryu the only time he's the same as ryu is by thrid strike but he's dead by that time. and internal ki is an aspect of hung gar.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Gen has never fought people all over the world and he's above ryu the only time he's the same as ryu is by thrid strike but he's dead by that time. and internal ki is an aspect of hung gar.

i can assure that you are wrong this time my friend . Gen is/was the most famous and most dangerous killer of the world , he killed many guys from all over the world , some because they wanted to challenge gen and some because gen was paid to it. Gen is said to be the same class as ryu since sf 2 alpha .

Originally posted by Hoshi
i can assure that you are wrong this time my friend . Gen is/was the most famous and most dangerous killer of the world , he killed many guys from all over the world , some because they wanted to challenge gen and some because gen was paid to it. Gen is said to be the same class as ryu since sf 2 alpha .

Please show me where it says gen is a worldwide assassin, I know he is an assassin but where does it say world wide?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen

unfortunatelly this doesnt make it very clear, but until tomorrow i will bring more consistent proof. But at least say he looked all over the world for a worthy opponent , and entered the tournament to find worthy opponent .

I says he entered the world warrior tournament, it doesn't mention him travelling the world.

the world warrior tournament is the biggest martial arts tournament of the world where only the strongest are called. There are people from all over the world there , different people different styles.

Originally posted by Hoshi
the world warrior tournament is the biggest martial arts tournament of the world where only the strongest are called. There are people from all over the world there , different people different styles.

The strongest, I'm suprised ryu was able to go since he was weak throughout alpha and street fighter 1

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The strongest, I'm suprised ryu was able to go since he was weak throughout alpha and street fighter 1

weak?I dont think so , ryu was very strong even in the first tournament , strong enough to take sagat the muay thai emperor.

Originally posted by Hoshi
weak?I dont think so , ryu was very strong even in the first tournament , strong enough to take sagat the muay thai emperor.

Um, that was evil ryu that beat him, regular ryu got thrashed.

wrong, the shoryuken that defeated sagat woken up the latent evil power that lied insede ryus body , but it was for a brief moment , the entire fight was a close one

Originally posted by Hoshi
wrong, the shoryuken that defeated sagat woken up the latent evil power that lied insede ryus body , but it was for a brief moment , the entire fight was a close one

Sorry but your wrong, ryu was getting thrashed until satsu no hadou took over and he perfromed a metsu shoryuken, it was not close at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagat#Story

I know even I get some information about wikpedia because it is the easy way, but wikpedia is not very ...official , even i can write something like: ryu defeated jesus in a staredown match.If we go by the something more official than wikpedia we can see ryus fight was close . In the books it was close,in the comics books it was close, in the movie it was close , etc

Here then

Official plot guide:

http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/arcade/file/street_fighter_plot.txt

If the link doesn't work just go to any street fighter ga,e on gamefars and look up plot guide.

Comic books and movies are not canon.

STREET FIGHTER

Canon Date: 1987

Gameplay: Street Fighter 1 was Capcom's first one-on-one fighting game.
The only character you could play as was Ryu, though. And the second
player could play as Ken in VS matches.

Story: The first Street Fighter tournament was held and hosted by Muay
Thai God and Emperor, Sagat. Apparently not happy with being just the God
of Muay Thai, Sagat wanted to prove that he was King of the Hill over
everyone, it seemed. Contrary to popular fancanon, Shadaloo officially had
NOTHING to do with Street Fighter 1. The main character of Street Fighter
1 is Ryu, a prospective student under Ansatsuken master Gouken who's entire
life was the fight. Hearing about the Street Fighter tournament, he
eagerly signs up to test his mettle.

Ryu finally defeated Sagat with a cheap deus ex machina shot (no wonder
why Sagat's so pissed off at him for the longest time). Ryu was down on
the ground after having been pummelled by Sagat, then Sagat reached out to
take his hand, knowing that he had won, but Ryu was so obsessed with
winning that Satsu no Hadou overtook him and he ripped through and burned
Sagat's chest with his Metsu Shoryuken, becoming Evil Ryu for a split
moment there. This is an official statement, and probably a retroactive
change by Capcom, considering that it wasn't until one of the latest
versions of Street Fighter 2 that Satsu no Hadou even freaking EXISTED as a
concept within Capcom's writers' minds. At any rate, you can also see this
in Evil Ryu's ending in SFA3. While Evil Ryu in SFA3 is a what-if
character, he temporarily flashbacks about his fight with Sagat in SF1,
which is NOT a what-if occurrence (obviously). And you know it's his fight
with Sagat in SF1 and not his midboss fight with Sagat in SFA3 because the
post-fight dialogue didn't have Sagat acting like his chest just got ripped
through with Evil Ryu's Metsu Shoryuken. You can also see this in Adon's
SFA2 ending (where Satsu no Hadou is mentioned as the power that Ryu used
to defeat Sagat) and in Ryu's SFA2 plotline in general (he's seeking out
Akuma to find out more about the Satsu no Hadou because he doesn't know
what it is when it overtakes him in defeating Sagat). Again, though, it's
official statement.

gamefaqs is a website where most of it are made by readers , even the walkthough are readers made .That is why they say to contact them if any of the facts are wrong

i know they arent canon , but at least they were all capcom made

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
That's still an impressive feat

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Then you don't know what you're talking about. Chi is not a Japanese word,

did I say it was? 😕

yeah I do know what I'm talking about though... they're completely different ideas

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
So how is chi a result of applying ki if the word chi is not in the Japanese vocabulary?

because it's not the words that are the important thing.. it's the ideas the words represent.... I figured by using both those terms you would inhenrently know the difference instead of just reading some halfassed explanation on the internet....

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Jing is a result of the application of Chi. Hit the books, kid.

actually chi can be used for the application of many different techniques...

and why would I hit the books? I'm a practitioner of both traditional chinese fighting arts as well as japanese.... books are for people who want to learn about MA theory.. which is about as useful as insurance theory when used in application....

but hey in a world where people can get 2 year memberships at karate school's to become blackbelts I guess I can't blame you for your american ignorance.... kid... pfffft... 🙄

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The feats are moot because Gen doesn't perform that much feats and he's top tier.

for one... we don't see gen perform "much feats" so it's hard to guage what he can and can't do...

for two.. chun li as regarded gen as being unbelievably skilled on a level that even surpasses her own...

for three his manipulation of chi is specifically designed to bypass the durability etc etc of other SF members...
he can use ki attacks but those are not the strengths of his style...

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
He wins because he outskills Ryu because he is a MASTER and Ryu IS NOT.

so again.... EXPLAIN how wong fei hung wins this...... so far all you've done is make ambiguous comparisons of him to gen and you can't realistically do that... there's really nothing to compare except that they both know martial arts.. and you've still failed to tell me how he's going to survive this much less beat ryu....

Originally posted by Hoshi
i know they arent canon , but at least they were all capcom made

No, the comics are not made by capcom and the plot guide is based on official source books released by capcom.

well , at least the comics have the capcom seal and are on capcoms official website ,and so is the books I have read

Originally posted by jinzin
impressive? sure... useable? no... as impressive as SF feats? HELL NO....

And I told you there are characters that do less impressive feats and are high tiered vega, gen, etc... so that point is moot.

Originally posted by jinzin

did I say it was? 😕

In what language is ki the result of the application of chi then, cause you said that.

Originally posted by jinzin

yeah I do know what I'm talking about though... they're completely different ideas

because it's not the words that are the important thing.. it's the ideas the words represent.... I figured by using both those terms you would inhenrently know the difference instead of just reading some halfassed explanation on the internet....

They are the same thing you have no proof there not the same thing.

Originally posted by jinzin

and why would I hit the books? I'm a practitioner of both traditional chinese fighting arts as well as japanese.... books are for people who want to learn about MA theory.. which is about as useful as insurance theory when used in application....

but hey in a world where people can get 2 year memberships at karate school's to become blackbelts I guess I can't blame you for your american ignorance.... kid... pfffft... 🙄

You need to hit the books because you don't know what your talking about, Qi is more then a chinese MA term it reffers to traditional chinese medicine and philosophy just because you know chinese MA doesn't mean you understand Qi, hit the books like I said.

Originally posted by jinzin

for one... we don't see gen perform "much feats" so it's hard to guage what he can and can't do...

Then stop using feats in this match, they are not that important to guage sfers.

Originally posted by jinzin

for three his manipulation of chi is specifically designed to bypass the durability etc etc of other SF members...
he can use ki attacks but those are not the strengths of his style...

and he has enough control over chi to make dalsim admit his inferiority... as well as defeat akuma....

Gen never beat gouki or fought dhalsim officially, and wong fei hung knows an internal art too.

Originally posted by jinzin

so again.... EXPLAIN how wong fei hung wins this...... so far all you've done is make ambiguous comparisons of him to gen and you can't realistically do that... there's really nothing to compare except that they both know martial arts.. and you've still failed to tell me how he's going to survive this much less beat ryu....

He's more skilled, I compare him to gen because wong has descent feats like gen yet is high tiered.

Originally posted by Hoshi
well , at least the comics have the capcom seal and are on capcoms official website ,and so is the books I have read

It doesn't mean nothing, they are not official.