Originally posted by Deano
it wasnt the goddam terrorists. it was the government. thats why it was pulled off.watch the documentarys. it tells you where the plane went
Just tell me what your crazy documentary says, I've wasted enough of my life with your stupid videos.
Originally posted by PVS
thats fine. but what do you think of the confiscated and classified footage? does this not prompt you to at least question. even if you're sure it was a plane, and sure it was flight 77 on top of that, do you still not find suspicion in their secrecy?
The secrecy and manner that this whole situation was handled makes me suspicious about alot of things. Instead of trying to figure out what hit the pentagon, perhaps some people could ask themselves,"that if it was indeed flight 77 that hit the pentagon, why all the secrecy?"
I sometimes think that flight 77 might have been hit by a U.S. fighter and that the video is hid to hide the fact that the U.S. fired on it's own planes (but that is just speculation).
I prefer to go under the whole Ockham's razor approach (or the, "if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is most likely a duck" school of thought).
That outlook leads me to believe (although further evidence may change my mind) that
-it was flight 77 that crashed into the pentagon
-terrorists did in fact act on 9/11
-certain bodies of the U.S. defense/gov't reacted in a manner to cause great suspicion or acted in a near complicit (if not complicit) manner
-bush manufactured or intentionally led the U.S. people into a war with Iraq
Too the skeptics, answer the following questions to help bring credibility to the missile theory, which has no supporting evidence of any kind.
Where did the plane debree come from that was found inside the pentagon and on the lawn?
Where did the aviation fuel come from?
Where did Flight 77 go? Where did the passenger go? Why did flight deck crew members see Flight 77 disapear off of the radar?
Why does the government witholding videotapes mean that it was a missile? Could there not be several other reasons they are not bothering releasing those video to the public?
Where did the missile come from? Who launched it? Why did this missile cause plane debree to be inside the pentagon and scattered on the lawn?
PVS - There's nothing wrong with being suspicious and simply wondering why the government isn't releasing that footage. But to say (as some people are) that the government not releasing the footage is some kind of support for it being a missile is stupid.
Originally posted by BackFire
Why does the government witholding videotapes mean that it was a missile?
you're doing it again. arguing my own speculation which i admit was only brought about by my questioning of why they are keeping shit secret.
please, if you're going to argue the sceptics then argue just that. overshooting them and going on about missiles is pointless. may as well argue david icke's nonsense ftw
Originally posted by BackFire
Why is it pointless, people think it's a missile and their only "evidence" is that it isn't proven that it's a plane and that the government is witholding videos.If the missile theory wasn't crap to begin with I wouldn't make it out to be as stupid as David Ike theories.
but you seem to remain obtuse to the big question, like the lion attacking its weakest prey. fine, its crap. although i dont believe its proven to be crap, i will submit to it so that the bigger point will no longer be avoided:
ITS CRAP
now we move on
what good reason would they have for hiding the footage?
Originally posted by BackFire
Well, why does your speculation make it a missile, PVS. I'm just curious as to why people think a missile makes more sense then the plane when the plane at least has SOME evidence to support it.
it doesnt. i just said its crap. now drop the 3 legged gazelle and go after the big game.
Like I said above, if the confiscated videos don't show anything with anymore clarity then the already released videos, then it would make sense for them not to bother releasing them.
Or maybe the government just doesn't care to prove a conspiracy theory wrong, because the evidence that it was a plane pretty much already does it for them.
Besides, that not the big game. There is a million reasons why they may not want release the footage. I think the big game is for people who think it's a missile to back it up in some way or another or at least explain why there was plane debree all over the place.