Sephiroth vs. Ganondorf

Before any of the fanboys come and says Sephiroth would win or Ganondorf would win allow me to example a few things:

1.) First off tell who is the better villain and why.
2.) Straight up fight. Ganondorf CANNOT transform into Ganon and Sephiroth CANNOT transform into Safer Sephiroth. Ganondorf does have his giant sword you see in the Zelda game that was never finished and in Super Smash Bros Melee. Sephiroth has his famous Marasume. Both have all their powers including powers from Super Smash Bros Melee and the battle takes place at the ruins of Midgar (Cloud vs. Kadaj/Sephiroth in Advent Children)

Well, it's a good thing someone finally set up a fanboy defense system on their thread. But i'm still gonna have to say sephy wins in both catagories.

Sephiroth was a calm, devious, and more sadistic villian than Ganondorf was. I view Ganondorf as a rather hotheaded, garudo king, who only had half his power because he just so happened to have an army behind him only because he was the only male born in that hundred or whatever years. Once he did that he gained the triforce and commanded a handful of monsters that stood in links way. So Ganondorf DOES have the numbers on his side.

Sephiroth was more of a modern day "moses" so to speak. He lead the jenova replica's to their "promised land" and practically preached his thoughts and beliefs to Cloud while all the time claiming that Cloud was one of them. He had the hero greatly confused and mixed up his morals and thoughts to the point that he didn't even know who he was. Even though he had no actual army defending him, but just a bunch of mindless slaves who never fought, he has the power in this match.

For the actual fight, ganondorf could most likely hold his ground for a bit since sephiroth will only toy wiht him for a bit, but sephiroth's speed and strength would out do ganondorf rather quickly, and even if that don't convince many, sephiroth's magic is stronger than ganondorf's even wiht the triforce of power. Even if Ganondorf transformed into Ganon (which by rules of the match he can't), He still couldn't beat Sephy becuase he'd be out done in both speed and brains. Link Has more of a chance against sephiroth than Ganondorf because he is smarter and reacts much quicker in battle, but until sephy got serious, it would be a fun match.

sephiroth can't kill ganondorf without the master sword so he's pretty ****ed.

Well i have to say Ganondorf cuz He is Immortal like vanice said, He took over the whole Herule and he have the Triforce of Power.

2 words...Sin Harvest

But sephiroth can't kill him because Ganondorf is Immortal

Fin

Ganondorf also has the power of a God on his side.

Sephiroth has Jenova on his. All Ganondorf has is the Triforce of Power and Ganondorf isn't Immortal because Link killed him with a Silver Arrow. So you're saying Sin Harvest which uses an angel's halo wouldn't even phase Ganondorf.

The silver arrow was a light arrow, an arrow made of light which killed him after he had been worn down with the White Sword (which is the master sword with a new name, the other name was long lost) and it is probably the most powerful LIGHT has to offer....

No the Silver Arrow was a lesser Light Arrow. And there is no proof that the White Sword was the Master Sword. And you still haven't given me proof why Sin Harvest wouldn't do a thing.

You have no proof it is a LESSER light arrow, from what we know it could be better....
And I read that on a FAQ place, but even if it's not true it is still one of the most powerful things that light has...

Why would it?

Originally posted by Tidas
But sephiroth can't kill him because Ganondorf is Immortal

Originally posted by kamikz
You have no proof it is a LESSER light arrow, from what we know it could be better....
And I read that on a FAQ place, but even if it's not true it is still one of the most powerful things that light has...

Why would it?

i'm gonna point out something else that most people don't seem to be looking at while im working on this note, Smash Bro's. If Ganondorf truly is so great, why is he more than easily defeatable by someone as pathetic as the game and watch man? i mean for god sake's he the game and watch man! I mean if Ganny is so great then why would nintendo make him so weak in their biggest showcase battle game? I mean what did he have there that was so great? A flamming boot?

I think Ganondorf is the best villain (but that's because I have not seen Seprioth very much), he was the king of evil and everybody you met said his hearth was made of stone and such. But then, on the top of the tower in WW, he did not seem so evil, like he had had another life before, he just seemed sad..He still wanted power but it wasn't the same thing, he is a very special villain to me....

About the fight, I think Seprioth is probably an equal fighter (mabey even better) than Ganondorf, but I don't see him killing him (because of the light thing).

What's with everyone and this light thing? I don't see how light could be the only smidgin difference here, if Seph has light, Ganondorf's screwed, and if Sephiroth doesn't then he's screwed...sorry there's more to it than that. Both of them have the most evil of hearts. Both believe they were chosen by fate to accomplish something great. I'm sure someone with a lot of magic power could easily break through sephiroth's defences without light, just Link and Zelda's magic power was far too weak so they had to seek the power of light to do it. I wouldn't say it's the strongest that light has to offer, but rather it's enough to get the job done. Besides, as i stated, Alexander would solve the light problem anyways. And none of you tell me he can't use it, he just didn't in the game. He could very easily change out his materia and use it if he willed, he just didn't want to then because he didnt' need it and why use over ecsessive power if it's unnecessary?

Does Seprioth have a powerful light magic? (Sorry, my knowledge is lacking on him). Either way Link had the evils bane, a thing MADE to destroy Ganondorf, still, he could only wear him down long enough for the six sages to trap him, so one light attack does not result in Ganondorf's defeat. In the last Zelda, Ganon/Dorf had been captured and weakened so many times that he barley had any power left...
But could you explain more about this?

I don't know much about that, if he has barely any power remaining then that would mean that his chances of defeating sephiroth would be even lower. But that's just common sense talking for me.

But isen't this Ocarina of Time Ganondorf? Which means he has not lost power...

Originally posted by kamikz
Does Seprioth have a powerful light magic? (Sorry, my knowledge is lacking on him). Either way Link had the evils bane, a thing MADE to destroy Ganondorf, still, he could only wear him down long enough for the six sages to trap him, so one light attack does not result in Ganondorf's defeat. In the last Zelda, Ganon/Dorf had been captured and weakened so many times that he barley had any power left...
But could you explain more about this?

Holy. Sephiroth has Holy. In Final Fantasy Holy is the ultimate White Magic. Not to mention Sin Harvest which is an auto-kill. And you can't say Sin Harvest isn't light because it uses an angel's halo.

Does it necessarily have to be light because it is in the category "light magic"? Holy has a couple of white balls crashing down on the opponents head, which is not light as far as I know of. Besides, where is it said Seprioth got it?

Same deal with the halo, and that does not mean Ganondorf is going to die. He has survived things that are made to kill him, and his robe is undestroyable, he could just use it to fend of the halo...