Sephiroth vs. Ganondorf

Originally posted by IcePunk
Just played through FF7 again, didnt see Seph use Holy or Sin harvest at any time, ESB stop lying 😐

Edit : is this KH Seph or FF7 Seph, make up your bloody mind >_<

Also, should KH final fantasy characters be even be considered canon?

They are the same people. Square Enix made Sephiroth and they made Final Fantasy 7 and Kingdom Hearts meaning that they gave Sephiroth the power to use Sin Harvest and yes they should. The same company made Kingdom Hearts that made Final Fantasy 7.

Also about the Master Sword thing, Four Swords injured Ganon. And all that does is separate someone into 4.

What? The villain in Four Swords were Vaati, not Ganondorf. Besides, Link has many, many different light magics, chares a triforce with Ganondorf, has the master sword which weakens him, trapped him numerous of times and defeated him many as well, of course Ganon would grow weaker and weaker. But in Ocarina of Time, even the thing that was made to kill him did not do it, but instead they had to trapp him inside the sacred realm. I mean, IF they would be able to kill Ganondorf right there they would....

Aww, Kamikz, you took what I was going to say! 😒

Sorry 😉

Originally posted by kamikz
What? The villain in Four Swords were Vaati, not Ganondorf. Besides, Link has many, many different light magics, chares a triforce with Ganondorf, has the master sword which weakens him, trapped him numerous of times and defeated him many as well, of course Ganon would grow weaker and weaker. But in Ocarina of Time, even the thing that was made to kill him did not do it, but instead they had to trapp him inside the sacred realm. I mean, IF they would be able to kill Ganondorf right there they would....

Umm clearly you haven't played Four Swords Adventures for the gamecube. The last boss was not Vaati but Ganon. And it was clear that Ganondorf was powerful, too powerful to be destroyed by Link and the Sages in OoT. But Sephiroth had the power to whip out the planet. And it was clear that the end of the world was near because the Weapons became released and they were only around to destroy everything to save the world.

So?

Exactly, he didn't wipe the planet out, and if he did he would die too, wheras Ganondorf would not....
Ganon as said before was weak at the time, and Link is always destined to take him down, now there are 4 of him. He is light and his weapons are made of it as well. I think you need to replay WW. The scene where Link strikes Ganondorf from head to toe and Ganon does not even get a scar, then getting the whole placed burnt up with fire and the roof crashing on him, still not a scratch. You keep saying "but in that, but there.. blalblabla" it is obvious that Ganondorf in the first games (OOT, WW) could not be killed by anything else than the master sword and not wounded without light...

Originally posted by kamikz
Exactly, he didn't wipe the planet out, and if he did he would die too, wheras Ganondorf would not....
Ganon as said before was weak at the time, and Link is always destined to take him down, now there are 4 of him. He is light and his weapons are made of it as well. I think you need to replay WW. The scene where Link strikes Ganondorf from head to toe and Ganon does not even get a scar, then getting the whole placed burnt up with fire and the roof crashing on him, still not a scratch. You keep saying "but in that, but there.. blalblabla" it is obvious that Ganondorf in the first games (OOT, WW) could not be killed by anything else than the master sword and not wounded without light...

And yet Sephiroth survived a giantic explosion (same out Cloud survived) and survived being frozen and was still able to take control of Cloud's body. Sin Harvest and the match is over.

No, why would it be that way? Ganondorf survived being hit over and over and over and over with the thing MADE to kill him and all evil, he was the KING of evil. Still they did not succeed. He showed that nothing wounded him a single bit, you seem to think that the bigger the attack is the more it will take. But an attack that did not come from light didn't take a shit, so why would a larger attack do that?

Clearly you don't know what Sin Harvest is.

Then give me the full explenation.

To begin with Sin Harvest is the size of an Angel's Halo.

Sephiroth will be facing his enemy as though he was focusing everything on him and all of a sudden he will vanish. You will look around and (sometimes) find him in the air far away and that's when you hear "Heartless Angel...Sin Harvest." Once the Angel's Halo forms over your head there is no stopping it. And with that your spirit is taken from your body and all is lost (expect with Second Chance equipped then you are at the verge of death). The only means of negating Sin Harvest is to force Sephiroth to stop the spell before the halo forms over your head. If you don't the halo acts as the portal between life and death and your spirit is taken from life and brought to death.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=30625452391564125&q=Sephiroth

Maybe this will help. Watch and be amazed.

And why would this not be stoppable, just because Sora couldn't. Also, he has to target Ganondorf, remember the spell he cast in the beginning of the last fight in OOT, they were unable to do that.... And he could kill him while he's loading up to that spell OR trap him inside one of those crystals that he trapped Zelda in..

KH2 didn't have targeting. And Zelda was in the Crystal because her power was nothing compared to Ganondorf's.

So what says he could not trapp something else?

What's to say he could trap Sephiroth? Sephiroth is far stronger in magical power then Princess Zelda could ever hope to be.

So... what says he could not trapp Seprioth?

Considering the power of Sephiroth alone was able to trap Holy the strongest white magic in FF7.

That is not proof enough, he does not know of this magic. Even if he could resist it I doubt he will have the means to stopp Ganondorf, his power MIGHT be higher, but again, the means...