Actually... the holy we're talking about is "Final Fantasy VII" holy, it has more power than any other "white ball holy thingy" from other ff games, its the most powerful white magic, therefore the most powerful light magic. Ganondorf may be immortal, but Sephiroth is eternal.. just like freddy vs jason..
Jenova morphed into a Sephiroth like figure, stabbed aerith (the last surviving ancient and carrier of Holy materia) with the Masamune.. has she feel into her knees, the Holy materia was dropped into underwater..(the rest i don't really remember it has been several years since i last played ffvii)... Eventually the real Sephiroth got hold of Holy materia... but he never really used it, his plan was to scar the world with meteor (the ultimate black magic) and be one with it, by fusing himself with the lifestream..I dont really know if he can use it or not, maybe FFVIIs holy can only be used for good.. i dont know, this can only be answered by real fans with knowledge bout it...
Actually I was referring to the Kingdom Hearts light attack Sephiroth uses against Sora. And Holy from FF7 can only be used by pray. Sephiroth never got hold of the White Materia for it was lost in the City of the Ancients and because of that Aerith was able to use it at the end but Sephiroth was so freaking powerful that he was able to suppress Holy and prevent it from being used. Sephiroth's Marasume is able to draw in blood to it to make it stronger and that is a reason you don't see Aerith bleeding when Sephiroth stabs her.
It has to be the OoT version, cuz in WW he uses two samurai like swords.
And about the White sword/silver arrow thing, that was in the first Zelda game and it was against GANON, not Ganondorf but still it's basicly the same thing and procedior, the light arrows and the master sword minus its flashy effects.
Also, dont bring theories about certain FF magic working on him, cuz there's no proof of it being effective on him at all.
And besides, even if it would prove efficient, Spph's still missing one particular weapon, yes you guessed it, the Master sword.
Marasume (or was it Masamune?) is NOT the Master sword/white sword.
Ganondorf wins just cuz of his resistance against weapons other than the silver/light arrows and the Master/white sword, nice matchup though.
And even if they wouldnt be able to kill eachother, it still would not matter, no one said this is a several round fight, it's more like a fight to KO (or something close to that) fight.
Show me proof that anything outside the Zelda universe cannot hurt Ganondorf. Ganondorf may be invincible in the Zelda universe but that doesn't mean anything. Perfect Chaos was invincible but Super Sonic defeated him. Is Super Sonic invincble? Yes in his universe but that doesn't mean he's not anywhere else. Sin Harvest is a one move kill that takes away all magic points as well. Show me proof that Ganondorf would be immune to Sin Harvest.
You have to prove that it does have an effect on him. Magic, explosions, fire, swords, nothing proved effective against Ganondorf. So tell me why there would be an exception here....
And Ganon does not need to be hit, he can fly, is very agile and has an indestructible robe. He can also take shitloads of damage as I have said before ^^^.
whats to say he cant just dodge it, or are they all just standing there like potato heads waiting to be attacked like in most FF games, i mean they dont even move, is it in a movie or something to show the speed of the attack, just being in the game isnt good enough, most summons take about a minute or two to be called, and the monsters just stand there watching it and then they die 😆 whats to stop ganon just dodging
Originally posted by Dragoncloud
Bull, if he's immortal then that would mean that link and zelda were too, the Triforce doesn't make a S*** of difference in mortality, it just makes him really hard to kill. Sides the Masamune is a sword of legend a well, i don't think sephy's gonna need the master sword for this one. Besides, The master sword isn't ganondorf's weakness, just evil ones can never touch it, you idiots are thinking of the light arrow, and that's not to hard for sephiroth to fix, all he has to do is use a little bit of holy and infuse it with the masamune and he's got ganny beat.Technically, it's the best light has to offer in their own little universe. In Sephiroth's Holy was, so by default, he could just cast a little Alexander and we could be seeing ganondorf shot down and out like a whole bunch of nothing.
i'm gonna point out something else that most people don't seem to be looking at while im working on this note, Smash Bro's. If Ganondorf truly is so great, why is he more than easily defeatable by someone as pathetic as the game and watch man? i mean for god sake's he the game and watch man! I mean if Ganny is so great then why would nintendo make him so weak in their biggest showcase battle game? I mean what did he have there that was so great? A flamming boot?
Don't call other people idiots when you yourself are acting ignorant. Smash Bros. is not considered cannon. He is anything but weak, he has one of the strongest attacks in the game. The only thing that might be considered cannon is his sword. There is also probably a reason why Zelda instructs Link to use the Master Sword to kill Ganondorf: Because it's the only thing that works. It's not some common sword simply infused with magic.
Originally posted by thegmeister53
Don't call other people idiots when you yourself are acting ignorant. Smash Bros. is not considered cannon. He is anything but weak, he has one of the strongest attacks in the game. The only thing that might be considered cannon is his sword. There is also probably a reason why Zelda instructs Link to use the Master Sword to kill Ganondorf: Because it's the only thing that works. It's not some common sword simply infused with magic.
Now who is the ignorant one? Name me one time Link used the Master Sword to slay Ganon. Not once he always ended up using a Silver Arrow.
Um what? That was in the first Zelda game (which is the last featuring Ganon) where he had been captured and defeated countless of times, he had grown weak, that is the only one where Ganon actually dies... In Ocarina of Time, he was defeated by the master sword, in WW he was defeated by the master sword. And always he has been worn down with the master sword or white sword, if it was as simple to shoot the silver arrow then Link would have.
And just because the magic is in the category "light magic" does not mean it is actually light, I don't see where that is... Is Seprioth good? Has he got a pure hearth?
And there is no chance Ganondorf will die by 1 hit, even with light.
Originally posted by ESB - 1138I'm not arueing with you, but exactly when and where does he use sin harvest?
Holy. Sephiroth has Holy. In Final Fantasy Holy is the ultimate White Magic. Not to mention Sin Harvest which is an auto-kill. And you can't say Sin Harvest isn't light because it uses an angel's halo.
Originally posted by kamikzthat's not true, technically, if you watch his robe during the fight in ocarina of time, it begins to tear away quite a bit. so don't feed me that bs!
Does it necessarily have to be light because it is in the category "light magic"? Holy has a couple of white balls crashing down on the opponents head, which is not light as far as I know of. Besides, where is it said Seprioth got it?Same deal with the halo, and that does not mean Ganondorf is going to die. He has survived things that are made to kill him, and his robe is undestroyable, he could just use it to fend of the halo...
And holy is granted through the power of the materia, not to mention Alexander was also a holy based attack. And yes holy is considered "light" because light is the representation of good when dark is used to compare to evil. and since holy is the ultimate magic that is to determine what is right and what is good for the planet and its inhabitants, it can very easily be considered a "good" magic making it which would corrolate it to "light"
BS? Link shot him in the face with light arrows which made his whole body burts out with light, then he fell onto the ground and Link started to hack like crazy with the master sword. Of course the robe got tear apart, but when Link was not wounding Ganondorf himself the robe could parry every single attack that he made, even parry light. It is possible that Ganondorf had fused his magic into it, powering it with his own power, when he lost it, so did the robe.
Mabey undestroyable is a bit much, but it is very, VERY durable, at least when Ganondorf himself is not wounded.
Also, note that the inside of the robe might not be invurnable...
Originally posted by Dragoncloud
I'm not arueing with you, but exactly when and where does he use sin harvest?that's not true, technically, if you watch his robe during the fight in ocarina of time, it begins to tear away quite a bit. so don't feed me that bs!
And holy is granted through the power of the materia, not to mention Alexander was also a holy based attack. And yes holy is considered "light" because light is the representation of good when dark is used to compare to evil. and since holy is the ultimate magic that is to determine what is right and what is good for the planet and its inhabitants, it can very easily be considered a "good" magic making it which would corrolate it to "light"
Sephiroth uses Sin Harvest in Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 which is an auto kill unless you have Second Chance equipped which brings you down to 1 hp and 0 mp. He also uses a FF9 version of Holy which has been called the strongest light magic spell in many Final Fantasy games.