The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Lucius3,287 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
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Do my ears decieve me or did he say 'greatest Force-wielder seen in 20,000 years?'

WTF?

He's just badass that he has to be locked up?

That... this... wtf, it doesn't make any sense.

I guess just killing him isn't too effective given that Force-users can just run around as ghosts if they want to without much apparant loss of power.

Originally posted by Lucius
WTF?

He's just badass that he has to be locked up?

That... this... wtf, it doesn't make any sense.

Was thinking the same thing.

I don't get it. Whats the problem?

There is no problem. I'm just nitpicking because I'm a Guild Wars 2 fanboy and I'm going out of my way to dislike TOR.

Anyway, that was a painful to watch. As someone who has spent countless hours playing MMORPG's, doing raids, being in parties, etc etc, I am so ****ing tired of the "You need a tank to absorb all the agro here! The healer comes into play here! Now use your rogue/pure DPS'er to attack the boss while it's raping your tank heeeeyyyuuh!" formula. Been there, done that. With every mmorpg ever created in life.

Unless I see something really fresh and exciting in the future, I'm lumping this game in with Call of Duty 27 and Halo 6 as games that I'll buy only if a shit ton of my friends buy it first.

The announcer on that video was f*cking annoying.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
There is no problem. I'm just nitpicking because I'm a Guild Wars 2 fanboy and I'm going out of my way to dislike TOR.

Anyway, that was a painful to watch. As someone who has spent countless hours playing MMORPG's, doing raids, being in parties, etc etc, I am so ****ing tired of the "You need a tank to absorb all the agro here! The healer comes into play here! Now use your rogue/pure DPS'er to attack the boss while it's raping your tank heeeeyyyuuh!" formula. Been there, done that. With every mmorpg ever created in life.

Unless I see something really fresh and exciting in the future, I'm lumping this game in with Call of Duty 27 and Halo 6 as games that I'll buy only if a shit ton of my friends buy it first.

Oh.

Then why was Lucius pissed?

Same thing, obviously. I'm pretty sure that anyone who has an issue with anything TOR related only does so because they're hating the game for the sake of hating it.

Hmm sensing some insincerity here.....

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
There is no problem. I'm just nitpicking because I'm a Guild Wars 2 fanboy and I'm going out of my way to dislike TOR.

I'm rather annoyed with GW fanboys doing the above. It's approaching WoW levels of douchebaggery with the way its fanbase consistently has to hound TOR players. I didn't realize MMOs were like sports teams that required loyal, unwavering fanbases instead of folks who might simply enjoy a variety of them.

Anyway, that was a painful to watch. As someone who has spent countless hours playing MMORPG's, doing raids, being in parties, etc etc, I am so ****ing tired of the "You need a tank to absorb all the agro here! The healer comes into play here! Now use your rogue/pure DPS'er to attack the boss while it's raping your tank heeeeyyyuuh!" formula. Been there, done that. With every mmorpg ever created in life.

Unless I see something really fresh and exciting in the future, I'm lumping this game in with Call of Duty 27 and Halo 6 as games that I'll buy only if a shit ton of my friends buy it first.

That's a knee-jerk reaction, Blax. If you were attempting to affect disinterest, the best strategy is to ignore TOR developments and videos. But nooooo.... You watched it in its entirety, searched for things you didn't like about it, and then felt the need to unload.

MMOs are a huge expense. Moving away from the common method of play could be suicidal, especially given that TOR's going to be the only major MMO that's pushing its solo ability and storyline. If you want different, go play Champions Online. I don't see this as anything but confirmation of bias.

Things TOR's getting right so far:

- Actual emphasis on player-driven storyline. This is by far its more noticeable unique trait and one that is almost unseen in MMOs.

- Equipment modding. Instead of swapping gear every other level, you can keep equipment and mod it for stats. This allows for better cosmetics.

- PvP. Beta testers are enjoying PvP, and its thought to be more tactical than WoW's battlegrounds.

Things to be concerned about:

- Graphics are a cross of KotOR and Timesplitters. Slightly cartoonish, but with realistic shading and color schemes. I hope they offer a hi res texture pack to alleviate this.

- Limited companions means some groups will have similar henchmen in tow.

- Not sand-box levels of open-ended-ness. So its' less like Stillwater and more like an instanced KotOR on a large scale.

You know, I thought there'd be more fuss over a dude who apparantly more powerful than Revan, Exar Kun and mother****ing Nihilus.

Neph, did you read my fic? 😬

I think the interesting part is that he's apparently been alive since the time of the Infinite Empire. So he's likely Abeloth's father in law, twice removed or something.

Announcer man didn't seem especially authoritative.

It's indicated in the description for the planet on the website that ancient, dangerous Force users were kept there. While it's possible he's talking out of his ass, I don't think BW would allow it on a demo vid.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
[B]That's a knee-jerk reaction, Blax. If you were attempting to affect disinterest, the best strategy is to ignore TOR developments and videos. But nooooo.... You watched it in its entirety, searched for things you didn't like about it, and then felt the need to unload.

I stated an objective fact, that TOR's gameplay is outdated (an objective fact that you agreed with, hence your attempt to justify it by bringing up financial suicide), and then explained why that objective fact has dissuaded me from looking forward to the game. That is not knee jerking, that is not "searching for things to dislike". In fact, considering that I never said nor implied that that was what I was doing, it's a little incredible that you'd have the gall to accuse me of such. Lacking enthusiasm for a game because its projected gameplay is oldfashioned and cliche = going out of one's way to hate it?

I don't see this as anything but confirmation of bias.

You don't see it as anything other than bias because you're the one who has an emotional attachment to this game, not I, lol. Proof?

I'm rather annoyed with GW fanboys doing the above. It's approaching WoW levels of douchebaggery with the way its fanbase consistently has to hound TOR players. I didn't realize MMOs were like sports teams that required loyal, unwavering fanbases instead of folks who might simply enjoy a variety of them.

I'd really appreciate it if I could be allowed to state my opinion on the game without you making personal attacks at me and accusing me of having some kind of malevolent agenda, thanks.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Neph, did you read my fic? 😬

No, not really, but I have it bookmarked so I can read it whenever. I'm too tired now though.

From what I read though your prose is good and it did make me laugh.

Its your prequel reconstruction isn't it?

Blax, it's obvious that you're part of a jew conspiracy to keep the underground MMORPG market from going mainstream.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
It's indicated in the description for the planet on the website that ancient, dangerous Force users were kept there. While it's possible he's talking out of his ass, I don't think BW would allow it on a demo vid.

Hayden Blackman, mastermind behind The Force Unleashed, went on record saying that Starkiller had the potential to be "the most powerful Force user ever." I think that Announcer-Guy could merely be exaggerating the scope of this thing's power.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'd really appreciate it if I could be allowed to state my opinion on the game without you making personal attacks at me and accusing me of having some kind of malevolent agenda, thanks.

It's the antediluvian in him, don't take it personally. sneer

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, not really, but I have it bookmarked so I can read it whenever. I'm too tired now though.

From what I read though your prose is good and it did make me laugh.

Its your prequel reconstruction isn't it?

It's a puny attempt at it, yes.