Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe having a trillion hyper-advanced, super-competent death machines running around scared a few people.I refer to the above. From what I remember they were made dumb on purpose.
Why?
And there are several quintillion droids, because SW authors don't understand that's three trillion droids for every planet in the Republic. SW authors also have no understanding of big numbers.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
YouTube videoWhile this will undoubtedly reduce Janus to tears, I feel this must be posted regardless. This is an interesting spectacle; despite his own prodigious Force-enhanced strength, Dooku's saber lock is broken by Anakin at the 0:28 mark. Even more interesting is that during the second lock that begins at the 0:31 mark, you see Dooku's hands trembling with effort; Anakin doesn't budge. Dooku is forced to telekinetically hurl one of the lamps at Skywalker in order to break free.
Between this and his reliance on the MagnaGuards, it seems as though the series is shaping up to portray Anakin and Dooku as something akin to equals. I may in fact have to retract my views on Anakin vs. Opress in lieu of this.
As much as I like your confirmation bias based "analysis" of this, it is full of flaws:
1)
What does "breaking a saber lock" have to do with strength at all? Anakin moves his lightsaber sideways and with a nice leverage, which means he's not operating directly against Dooku's strength at all but circumvents it to a certain extend.
2)
Dooku is trembling? Then how the hell is he capable to remove four fingers of his right hand from his lightsaber hilt in order to use the telekinesis against Anakin?
And who does say that he had to do this in order to break free? That's just an assertion of yours - and not a really good one, since he is apparently able to hold his blade with the fingers of just one hand.
3)
Anakin is put on the floor by two of the MagnaGuards after being totally removed from actual confrontation with Dooku by a force manouver of the Count. So we have him losing to two robots and getting tricked with the force by Dooku. In that light, I'd love to see how this sequence depicts Dooku and Anakin even remotely as equals.
Even following your interpretation, this would only count for raw physical strenght. A department, in which Anakin has the benefit of an mechanical arm/hand, which is strong enough to allow him to hold the weight of himself, Kenobi and Sidious (that's what? 200 Kilogram?) during their escape from the Invisible Hand in RotS. Taking that into consideration, I wonder why he is incapable of overpowering Dooku physically. Apparently, because the Sith Lord is still lightyears ahead of Skywalker in the force mastery and lightsaber technique departments, showing that they are clearly not equals.
Originally posted by Lucius
Why?And there are several quintillion droids, because SW authors don't understand that's three trillion droids for every planet in the Republic. SW authors also have no understanding of big numbers.
Clearly because they all read I Robot, glanced at their multi-quintillion (thanks for that) robot army and simultaneously crapped themeselves.
I think theres a trope for that.
Borbarad
As much as I like your confirmation bias based "analysis" of this
I stopped reading here. And we were doing so well recently, too. Perhaps it wasn't meant to be. 😬
Spoiler:
I understand that confirmation bias is the nickname for the latest stone you're hurling in this glass house, but one could make the argument that you fit the definition since you've always held historically that Dooku is more powerful and more skilled than Anakin. Perhaps it's you who's guilty of confirmation bias? 131
tj
so what does all of this portraying anakin and dooku as equals do to the sections of ROTS novelization where dooku considers himself far superior? Make Dooku a very disilussioned old man? cause I think better of him.
A rather sloppy demonstration of retroactive continuity on George's part. The dialogue between Dooku and Anakin indicates that their duel on the Invisible Hand was the first since their battle on Geonosis; similar dialogue was established by Grievous and Obi-Wan during their fight on Utapau, where it is implied that it was the first time they'd fought.
It's still sloppy. The Count's line before Anakin's response about his powers doubling was, "I've been looking forward to this." Between that and his shit-eating grin, the strong implication is that the last time they'd fought, Dooku manhandled him. The few times they've faced off since Geonosis, Anakin held his own against Dooku very well. It still doesn't make any sense, hence the sloppiness.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
It's still sloppy. The Count's line before Anakin's response about his powers doubling was, "I've been looking forward to this." Between that and his shit-eating grin, the strong implication is that the last time they'd fought, Dooku manhandled him. The few times they've faced off since Geonosis, Anakin held his own against Dooku very well. It still doesn't make any sense, hence the sloppiness.
Well, perhaps because Anakin has held his own against Dooku, and has improved in every meeting, that Dooku is looking forward to fighting him (after a period where Skywalker continues to become stronger)- the Count might actually believe that Anakin could be the greater.
KV
Well, perhaps because Anakin has held his own against Dooku, and has improved in every meeting, that Dooku is looking forward to fighting him- the Count might actually believe that Anakin could be the greater.
Eh, not sure that fits. Dooku's thoughts in the ROTS novelization are one of contempt and disdain for both of his enemies. He doesn't genuinely believe they're threats until a while during the fight.
It doesn't matter, of course, it's still canon. But I think it was a pretty shitty job on George's part, continuity-wise.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Eh, not sure that fits. Dooku's thoughts in the ROTS novelization are one of contempt and disdain for both of his enemies. He doesn't genuinely believe they're threats until a while during the fight.It doesn't matter, of course, it's still canon. But I think it was a pretty shitty job on George's part, continuity-wise.
I'm just going strictly by the movies. When Dooku says to Kenobi in AOTC, "Master Kenobi, you disappoint me," he demonstrates his disdain for those who are considerably weaker than him, and his enjoyment fighting against those who are equally skilled.
Ergo, in ROTS, when he says, "I've been looking forward to this," he is looking forward to fighting the tandem because he knows that they are equally strong opponents who are on par with him- he might believe himself to be the greater, but he knows this won't be an easy challenge. This is corroborated by the fact that Dooku has faced Anakin several months before (this clip), where Anakin holds his own against the Count.
Of course, this is my reasoning as to why it isn't completely sloppy. However, when the movie was made, it was referencing the duel in AOTC.
But why are we not surprised that Lucas has done "a pretty shitty job".
Originally posted by Nephthys
http://sfdebris.com/special/masseffect2.aspI love SFDebris. :3
I'm already familiar with Rush, to the point that I can recite something like 20 of their songs (i.e. what I have in their 25 years of Rush compilation scavenged from the parents).
Yes is good at its inception, as well as its contemporary incarnation, but the 80s was not kind to the band's sound. "Big Generator" is almost unbearable.
Z.
I'm already familiar with Rush, to the point that I can recite something like 20 of their songs (i.e. what I have in their 25 years of Rush compilation scavenged from the parents).
Rush is quite possibly the most technically proficient band in the whole of classic and progressive rock. Excellent band with an excellent catalog, though I can understand why people despise Geddy Lee's voice. It can sound horrendous at times.
Z.
Yes is good at its inception, as well as its contemporary incarnation, but the 80s was not kind to the band's sound. "Big Generator" is almost unbearable.
Really? Big Generator is all right; 'Rhythm of Love' is a great tune, IMHO.