Qui-Gon was the main Jedi in TPM, Not Obi-Wan!! Obi-Wan was just following him around in that movie.
But the story was about the Sith reemerging, so I dnt have a problem showing Sidious and Maul. But it was also about discovering Anakin so he needs to be there!
I think the best poster was the one when you seen Anakin running and theres a big Darth Maul over him.
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HATE DETECTED!
FIRING THE FRIENDSHIP NUKE!
HATING IS OVER!
Also I just watched the episode Overlords of Clone Wars and its obvious that what Anakin does is not something he can normally do. The Force is specifically mentioned to be very strong there, the center of the Force iirc. Obi-Wan tells him to take control of the worlds power. Its like he was standing in the strongest Force Nexus ever.
So not usable in threads imo.
Originally posted by Nephthys
HATE DETECTED!FIRING THE FRIENDSHIP NUKE!
HATING IS OVER!
Also I just watched the episode Overlords of Clone Wars and its obvious that what Anakin does is not something he can normally do. The Force is specifically mentioned to be very strong there, the center of the Force iirc. Obi-Wan tells him to take control of the worlds power. Its like he was standing in the strongest Force Nexus ever.
So not usable in threads imo.
The reason that the feat is regarded as impressive by others is because the Son and Daughter were enhanced by the nexus as well; it is that Anakin overcame both of them in spite of his vastly inferior experience and technique that is considerable.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The reason that the feat is regarded as impressive by others is because the Son and Daughter were enhanced by the nexus as well; it is that Anakin overcame both of them in spite of his vastly inferior experience and technique that is considerable.
Were they enhanced by the nexus? I didn't see them making shit light up and the environment go crazy.
Originally posted by Zampanó
Guys, this is what is happening to canon.
Oh no now I have to pick a si- Not Traviss'. 😐
The Father is badass. EPIC BITCHSLAP!
Nephthys
Were they enhanced by the nexus? I didn't see them making shit light up and the environment go crazy.
Their powers were bizarre and esoteric even among Jedi and Sith and Nightsisters. Given the dialogue indicates that it is "an amplifier and a magnet" for Force-users, I see no reason to believe it was just Anakin benefiting from the place.
Neph
But we don't know that they are.
"This planet is both an amplifier and a magnet."
Seems pretty cut-and-dry and you haven't offered anything that would make me believe that the Force-wielders are somehow immune to the planet's Force-enhancing nature... particularly in light of their considerable and uncommon powers.
Neph
Furthermore we don't know how powerful they are without that place.
I'm not sure how that's relevant.
We don't need to know how powerful they are elsewhere to determine that they are more powerful on Mortis.
Neph
Hell, without the Father the Son had no power at all.
Correct, the Father's sacrifice neutralized the power of the Son {an obvious metaphor for Anakin's role in Palpatine's defeat}. But again, I'm not sure how this is relevant to the role played by the Force nexus of Mortis.
Neph
I don't see it as usable.
I didn't mean to suggest that I was arguing it was.
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
"This planet is both an amplifier and a magnet."
Seems pretty cut-and-dry and you haven't offered anything that would make me believe that the Force-wielders are somehow immune to the planet's Force-enhancing nature... particularly in light of their considerable and uncommon powers.I'm not sure how that's relevant.
We don't need to know how powerful they are elsewhere to determine that they are more powerful on Mortis.Correct, the Father's sacrifice neutralized the power of the Son {an obvious metaphor for Anakin's role in Palpatine's defeat}. But again, I'm not sure how this is relevant to the role played by the Force nexus of Mortis.
I didn't mean to suggest that I was arguing it was.
I... wasn't aware that I had to offer something to prove that they weren't benefitting from it. That sounds a little like trying to prove a negative to me.
You don't? Its simple to me. Anakin was already the Chosen one and potentially the most powerful Force user in the galaxy before he arrived on Mortis. As pointed out, the Son and Daughter don't even have access to the Force except though their father, so obviously Anakin benefitting from the nexus will elevate him far above them. You can see this when he bullies them and makes them submit.
Mathematically its like Anakin was already a 6 and the nexus gave him a +5 boost. The Son and the Daughter were 0's and the Nexus gave them a +5 boost. Anakin, because of his initial lead on them outstrips them with the the nexus boost.
Good.
Neph
I... wasn't aware that I had to offer something to prove that they weren't benefitting from it.
😐
Anything that runs contrary to the straightforward interpretation requires something a little more than opinion. In the whole of canon, we've never encountered a Force nexus that doesn't affect a Force user in one form another, either enhancing their powers or diminishing them, usually depending on the alignment of the site and user.
Why should we believe that Mortis is different?
Neph
You don't? Its simple to me. Anakin was already the Chosen one and potentially the most powerful Force user in the galaxy before he arrived on Mortis. As pointed out, the Son and Daughter don't even have access to the Force except though their father, so obviously Anakin benefitting from the nexus will elevate him far above them. You can see this when he bullies them and makes them submit.Mathematically its like Anakin was already a 6 and the nexus gave him a +5 boost. The Son and the Daughter were 0's and the Nexus gave them a +5 boost. Anakin, because of his initial lead on them outstrips them with the the nexus boost.
What does the presence of the Father have to do with this? If the children can access the Force, then their powers would naturally increase within the galaxy's strongest Force nexus. Anakin's powers were clearly enhanced when he tapped into his Chosen One!powers, but why would we believe that the Son and Daughter weren't enhanced as well, given their {again} "considerable and uncommon" abilities?
Originally posted by Zampanó
Guys, this is what is happening to canon.
Sorry in advance for the following text: You did realize this just now for the first time? 😕
Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The reason that the feat is regarded as impressive by others is because the Son and Daughter were enhanced by the nexus as well; it is that Anakin overcame both of them in spite of his vastly inferior experience and technique that is considerable.
Firstly I don't see any contradiction to Nephs initial point here: Given it all happened under influence of a force nexus, with Obi-Wan outright telling Anakin to utilize the force energy of the place, it seems to be unlikely, that Anakin could do something even remotely compareable apart from the nexus.
Secondly, I may point out, that you seem to have overlooked a little detail. Neither Obi-Wan nor Ahsoka are shown to receive any kind of "boost" in ability from the place, which kind of contradicts your assertion that it boosts the abilities of all force users present. Furthermore, even Anakin's own "boost" doesn't seem to be permanent, since he is pretty much inable to control / defeat the son throughout the rest of the episodes. In fact, the only other situation, in which he shows some unusual amount of power, is, when he "revives" his Padawan.
That being said, there is no evidence to conclude, that the children or the father receive a boost in force abilities, that is anywhere close to what Skywalker gets. In fact, as the father indicates multiple times, Anakin's unique nature as Chosen One is, what enables him to keep both children in check and thereby maintain the balance. If we can trust the fathers statements, Anakin was born to fulfill that task. This idea alone serves as a contradiction to your personal interpretation.
Combining this with the fact, that the two other Jedi didn't receive any noticeable boost in terms of force abilities, one might come to the conclusion, that Anakins performance was far less impressive than it seemed, because the place simple amped him more than it did boost the abilities of the two children, due to his very nature as Chosen One.
Furthermore, I still don't see any chance to draw any conclusions from that scene, that might be applicable to a versus fight not happening on Mortis.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Thank you Borbarad.And now so something completely different:
Darth Bane is.....
Jason Statham
I would love to see that movie(s). In the first, Baneham gets poisoned and searches for a cure, which coincidentally happened to Bane as well. Then he rips his heart out with one of the Orbalisks, keeps himself alive by shocking himself with Force Lightning every now and then, to keep his artificial heart running.
I think "Path of Bad Remake" and "Rule of Crank" would be some good titles for those...
