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So basically he's using strength as in "strong connection naturally"?

What a waste of words then.

Be more clear next time.

SM
So basically he's using strength as in "strong connection naturally"?

What a waste of words then.

Be more clear next time.

U mad bro?

I adequately distinguished between strength {which is determined by midichlorian count} and skill {which is determined by study and training}. I'm not sure how I could be any clearer, but perhaps this is why your profile is bereft of compliments to your intellect?

damn it guys, i'm drinking. i can't keep up with tat many posts. maybe luke is the best cause he kills everyone. but maybe luke can be challeneged because of PI\S. but here's the deal: i don't think abeoth isn necessarily luke's supieror. cause luke can kill any one incarnation f her. he just has to figure out how to kepp her from respawning. when he figures that out, he can kill her. so he will be her superior.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
The 'retarded semantic debate' was clearly significant enough to warrant an explicit entry in the vast compendium of knowledge that is the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, so in return for graciously accepting your concession, I'll kindly ask that you cease your b1tching. sneer

No it did not. You misunderstood what I was talking about to being strength = connection. As Janus pointed out they are not the same thing. If you don't want me to b1tch, stop being a b1tch.

^ Not sure why you're drinking and posting on message boards? Movies make it seem so different. mmm

In my day, all the cool kids would get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car. 😐

Anyways, Luke is definitely a superior fighter compared to Abeloth, who seems to have little skill by way of combat.

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Strength in the Force is determined by midichlorian count, Neph, as I tried to explain to you in a previous thread.

Anakin and Luke were from birth stronger in the Force than Palpatine, Yoda, Dooku, etc. and so forth.

Strength in the Force and "a strong connection to the Force" are not the same ideas because you can have the latter yet still be relatively unimpressive in Force mastery, which itself seems to be rather important to dueling and/or power lists in SWVF. Considering this context, it seems poor form that you're triumphant in your semantic argument which is attributed directly to your sloppy word choice.

Just sayin', bro.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I'm interested in what you guys think of Zannah. She did beat Bane after all and he's pretty much in the top 5. So should she also be in there? Or do we think that her beating him was basically PIS?

lol, Christ. Guess I'm sorrry I asked. You guys enjoy yourselves, I poked the beehive and I'm running away.

313

Nah, we're always like this.

Neph
No it did not.

Is Quanchi giving you pointers on how to randomly ignore evidence? What a fast learner you are.

Neph
You misunderstood what I was talking about to being strength = connection.

I didn't misunderstand anything. You have the quote from the film, from the Encyclopedia, and even this random tidbit from Dark Rendezvous.

Dark Rendezvous
“Mm. Thinking of students, I am. Best then I should go to battle ]with him in whom the Force is strongest, hmm? With young Skywalker, think you?”
Neph
As Janus pointed out they are not the same thing.

I suppose then that I'm fortunate that Janus isn't a canon source?

Neph
If you don't want me to b1tch, stop being a b1tch.

no u

If you think you can rebut Janus rather than shit out a few 'witticisms' then be my guest.

Digi
lol, Christ. Guess I'm sorrry I asked. You guys enjoy yourselves, I poked the beehive and I'm running away.

313

This bantering is what we do for fun. You'll come to understand.

SM
Strength in the Force and "a strong connection to the Force" are not the same ideas because you can have the latter yet still be relatively unimpressive in Force mastery,

😐

Force mastery is a product of skill, not raw strength. Which is why Anakin can be stronger in the Force than Yoda and Sidious and still be inferior in mastery. Again, The Phantom Menace, Yoda: Dark Rendezovus, and the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia confirm this belief.

Neph
If you think you can rebut Janus rather than shit out a few 'witticisms' then be my guest.

Guess you happened to glance over the three sources {count 'em} provided by yours truly compared to absolutely zilch {count 'em} from Janus? Unless self-reference counts, of course....

Oh wow, you own more sourcebooks than other people. That must mean your arguments are instantly right.

Neph
Oh wow, you own more sourcebooks than other people. That must mean your arguments are instantly right.

Now you're getting it.

Either make your argument or go duke it out with someone who's willing to not acknowledge quotes they don't like. Quanchi's in the movie section; best you start there.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/balki-perfect-strangers.php

Edit: I just realized pretty much all of you are too young to even know what "Perfect Strangers" was.

Any recent developments on TOR that might make me reconsider not buying it?

Originally posted by Turr_Phennir
Now you're getting it.

Either make your argument or go duke it out with someone who's willing to not acknowledge quotes they don't like. Quanchi's in the movie section; best you start there.

I'll pass on the pointless semantics please. As said, I hate debating this irritating bullshit with you. I'm not humoring you over your crappy word choice and inability to address the actual topic.

Other than them telling us there's no new build this weekend? Nope. I preordered the collector's edition which is pretty cool considering the stuff you get in game when the full version comes out. Also, the new build will be the final build before the game comes out. And for the millionth time, Revan does not die, Tulak Hord apparently somehow used the transfer essence ritual to conquer the dromund system, a rival of Tulak Hord's happens to be buried in a temple created 2,000 years after his death, and more continuity-retarded goodies.

You're certain Revan doesn't die?

Neph
I'll pass on the pointless semantics please. As said, I hate debating this irritating bullshit with you.

And as I said, I accept your concession with my characteristic grace and dignity.

Neph
I'm not humoring you over your crappy word choice

Three {count 'em} separate canon sources with three {count 'em} separate professional writers confirm rather explicitly my "crappy word choice."

That means slightly more to me than the complaints of two unusually grumpy and butthurt forum-posters. But it is close. 😬

Neph
and inability to address the actual topic.

Guess you missed this on-topic post, then:

Me
Honestly, my view of the discrepancies is not as severe as it once was. I think if we examine Luke's abilities holistically, the evidence indicates that he is the single most effective fighter in the mythos due to a combination of several factors-- but that he's not infallible and that any reasonably talented warrior stands a chance of either holding their own against him or defeating him outright.

Quanchi. Movie forum. Move.