The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Dr McBeefington3,287 pages

Originally posted by Lucius
It's not intellectual success I expect, it's when I look at violation of women's rights in the Arab monarchies, the war on reproductive rights championed by the human filth on the right, the bigoted Santorums and David Bahatis of the world, the backward human anachronisms in the Vatican, the bigoted Evangelical blowhards with their bullshit, the Islamist pricks of the Muslim Brotherhood, the ******* hasidic Jews in Israel, my own goddamn parents and the sheer level of their ignorance and bigotry. Human filth, carbon and nitrogen collections of shit. I look at these people, and I realize that I hate them. The sheer amount of unnecessary suffering brought about by ignorance and the self important assholes claiming to know the one and only truth. I hate them, I hate all of them.

To look at what could be, what ****ing ought to be, and to know it will never happen. That's agony.

And so I've come to realize the world is shit, humans are shit, and that those cheerful idealists are the luckiest ****ers on the planet.

Yes yes, the whole "I hate the sun, religion is allegedly ass backwards a secularism can only bring piece and happiness to the world" routine. I had that routine... When I was at 18..

It also occurred to me that for all the bitching you do about so called stupid, ignorant people, you now fall into that category because you don't know the meaning of certain words. Let's go with "bigotry" and "ignorance", because you're using them as you define them, which is based on your gospel (religion is bullshit). Had you been using those words in a universal sense and not used the extreme form of the monotheistic religions as the basis for your argument (once again, religion sucks!), people might take you a little more seriously, instead of thinking you complain too much about nothing and are generally a depressing human being with an inflated self worth (ironic since you criticize self importance).

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Yes yes, the whole "I hate the sun, religion is allegedly ass backwards a secularism can only bring piece and happiness to the world" routine. I had that routine... When I was at 18..

It also occurred to me that for all the bitching you do about so called stupid, ignorant people, you now fall into that category because you don't know the meaning of certain words. Let's go with "bigotry" and "ignorance", because you're using them as you define them, which is based on your gospel (religion is bullshit). Had you been using those words in a universal sense and not used the extreme form of the monotheistic religions as the basis for your argument (once again, religion sucks!), people might take you a little more seriously, instead of thinking you complain too much about nothing and are generally a depressing human being with an inflated self worth (ironic since you criticize self importance).

Way to miss the point. Ignorance sucks you stupid ****er. I ****ing hate you so goddamn much. I cannot stress how much I hate you. You boil my blood and make me want to punch holes in walls.

Yep... I TOTALLY missed the point...

Here's a book you should read.. It summarizes my post and your rebuttal quite well..

I don't understand how a humanist can be so down on humanity. It doesn't make sense. You should get laid/high/kittens.

Originally posted by Zampanó
I don't understand how a humanist can be so down on humanity. It doesn't make sense. You should get laid/high/kittens.

All of the above at the same time?

... Don't judge me.

Way to miss the point. Ignorance sucks you stupid ****er. I ****ing hate you so goddamn much. I cannot stress how much I hate you. You boil my blood and make me want to punch holes in walls.

Wait a minute, Vene, how can you say this:

Originally posted by Lucius
The sheer amount of unnecessary suffering brought about by ignorance and the self important assholes claiming to know the one and only truth.

And follow it up with this:

Originally posted by Lucius
I hate them, I hate all of them.

I'm being pedantic, but... how can you hate those that inflict suffering upon those whom you hate? It's circular logic. Unless you're limiting the term 'suffering' to just yourself... and everyone else (whom you hate for it) is forcing it upon you. The evangelical tw@ who votes for Santorum will be screwed by someone else, who will also be screwed by another. There must be exceptions to your 'all' clause.

No, you're not being pedantic because he's bitching about something and making no sense whatsoever.

Hard to believe Haywire is getting an 83% rating on rotten tomatoes.

I mean, Gina Carrano's hot and stuff, but... it's the definition of a B-movie.

Got my credit score in the mail.

885 out of 999. Ossum.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
No, you're not being pedantic because he's bitching about something and making no sense whatsoever.
I've always enjoyed hate the most, out of all emotions. It's the one people experience the least but spout the most. The next being 'love'.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I've always enjoyed hate the most, out of all emotions. It's the one people experience the least but spout the most. The next being 'love'.

Cool quote. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that the Karpyshyn style "called up his rage into a knife of hate" method of emotion is at least a little bit ridiculous. What does that even mean? After reading passages like that (I'll find one if I have to but I think you know what I'm talking about) I always worry that either the author is a sociopath or I'm cripplingly apathetic.

Originally posted by Zampanó
Cool quote. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that the Karpyshyn style "called up his rage into a knife of hate" method of emotion is at least a little bit ridiculous. What does that even mean? After reading passages like that (I'll find one if I have to but I think you know what I'm talking about) I always worry that either the author is a sociopath or I'm cripplingly apathetic.
I've only read the first two Bane novels, but that does sound like some wannabe poetic line he'd toss out. I think he's trying to pass Bane off as a sociopath, and with a little consideration, he succeeds, unfortunately.

Hate and love are the two most overused words, at least in the English language. I really do 'hate' sounding rigid and pedantic, and I know most will argue there are different... I guess 'levels' of the two, but I feel that's what a flexible vocabulary is all about. I don't 'hate' humanity for failing to meet my expectations--I distrust, dislike, am disappointed by it. I would hate the man who breaks in to my house, ties me up, and forces me to watch while he rapes and murders my family, and leaves me alive to remember it. That 'level' far surpasses anything I could feel toward a shitty movie, or that b*tch of a coworker, or the species' failings (its achievements can go f*ck itself---the negative must always take precedence).

But I 'love' hearing people justify their mismanaged emotions.

Which is more impactful, saying that you 'hate' something or that you 'dislike' it? Besides which, its emotionally (and practically) convenient to use extreme emotional expressions, rather than trying to guage what level of like or dislike you're feeling.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which is more impactful, saying that you 'hate' something or that you 'dislike' it? Besides which, its emotionally (and practically) convenient to use extreme emotional expressions, rather than trying to guage what level of like or dislike you're feeling.
I know, I'll never argue against the intended impact or convenience. But I find that overuse of them really dampens the impact when you want it to mean something to its fullest. A lifetime of hearing "I hate this" or "I love that" has made me dismissive of the terms even if someone is trying to apply it to an extreme emotional situation. I wish people would use more synonyms, putting some thought behind the descriptives they choose.

But wishes are for fishes. And I hate fishes.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Hard to believe Haywire is getting an 83% rating on rotten tomatoes.

I mean, Gina Carrano's hot and stuff, but... it's the definition of a B-movie.

A few political points before I begin hoping that Tom Brady loses like a *****:

How can the same people who were against Bush taking out Saddam, be in favor of Obama taking out Gadhaffi? You would think that would be an all or nothing sort of mentality...

Also, anyone see this chart floating around the web released by Nancy Pelosi? If not, i'll just post the politifact link.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/may/19/nancy-pelosi/nancy-pelosi-posts-questionable-chart-debt-accumul/

Originally posted by truejedi
How can the same people who were against Bush taking out Saddam, be in favor of Obama taking out Gadhaffi? You would think that would be an all or nothing sort of mentality...

I don't quite get this. While some Western missiles helped derail his convoy, the actual killing was done by insurrectionists. I don't recall us having a big stance on outright killing the guy.

well, we certainly didn't kill saddam either. the actual killing was done by an iraqi court.

Flacco is currently outplaying Brady which I didn't think what happen after Flaccos teammates called him out. On your political rant, we are all guilty of our biases and double standards as a result of said biases.

You caught him though. And his military wasn't defeated from his own countrymen, it was the Coalition forces. We helped out a country depose its dictator in Libya, but we did the deposing in Iraq. Direct intervention--boots on the ground sort of thing.