The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Kinda funny that they would spoil all this with a book, but these duels will probably look quite cool on the tv.

Originally posted by ares834
Kinda funny that they would spoil all this with a book, but these duels will probably look quite cool on the tv.

You never know with Dave & George. They'll probably override it or incorporate it differently, as they did with the Slaves of the Republic arc.

That would be dumb as hell to override a text that quickly, but yes, you never know with George.

RotS anyone?

Speaking of text & ROTS, I just reread Dark Rendezvous last week and that is, far and away, the best SW novel I've ever read. Better than anything by Luceno or Stover.

...Surely I'm not the only one to have read it?

Nah, it's one of my favorites.

Good to hear.

Seriously, it was the most engrossing SW book I've ever read. The dialogue and characterization were impeccable for all the main characters bar Anakin and Obi-Wan, but they were pretty much tertiary in function, so that's not a big deal.

Outright hilarious at several points, heartbreaking and horrifying at others, I think it should be required reading for a Star Wars EU fan.

I prefer RoT. Banes so hardcore.

(no but seriously RotS supreme)

Originally posted by Nephthys
I prefer RoT. Banes so hardcore.

(no but seriously RotS supreme)

Have you read Dark Rendezvous?

Yes. I really like Scout. Whie was kind of lame, but I did like that speech Ventress gave him.

But the plot was 'Yoda walks into an obvious trap and then survives the end'. Meeeeeeeh!

f u

God, it was amazing.

Dooku and Yoda were perfect. Ventress and Scout ruled. And Sidious was just a pimp, as usual.

As a character piece its incredible. I just don't really care about Yoda or Dooku that much though and the plot is pretty pointless.

You like Bane and Nihilus but not Yoda and Dooku? haermm

Thats just how much I hate the prequels.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Thats just how much I hate the prequels.

laem

Rereading ROTS and Plagueis, Stover and Luceno both spend wayyyyy too much time waxing poetic and indulging in melodrama.

Dooku was badass and so evil-like in Dark Rendezvous, but he didn't seem to have any desire to plot against Sidious, or more like he seemed too scared to.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Dooku was badass and so evil-like in Dark Rendezvous, but he didn't seem to have any desire to plot against Sidious, or more like he seemed too scared to.

That's because he's a b1tch and he knows it. Or in Tropespeak, Sidious is The Dreaded to Dooku and the source of his Nightmare Fuel. And boy did Stewart do a hell of a job conveying just why.

Dooku's only brave enough, like Vader, to plot in absolute & utter secrecy. Bereft of assistance (Ventress, Opress, Marek, Luke), they're completely loyal.

Well I haven't read Plagueis so IDK about that. But RotS is just epic (proper usage of the term) in the way Stover writes it. Amazing book.

I've never really brought Dooku as being a Sith. He has no hate and no rage. For a guy who follows the code of Passion, dude has very little.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well I haven't read Plagueis so IDK about that. But RotS is just epic (proper usage of the term) in the way Stover writes it. Amazing book.

Both books get about an 8.5/10 from me, but I maintain both overindulged in melodrama, unnecessarily grandiose language, and philosophy than what was necessary.

And the pacing: the best duel in the ROTS novel was Dooku vs. Obi-Wan & Anakin; all the others sucked the way they were written. Stover, who's usually gritty and brutally realistic in fight scenes, fumbled here. Contrast this with Luceno, who managed to write one of the most badass fights in the mythos with Plagueis and the Maladian assassins.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I've never really brought Dooku as being a Sith. He has no hate and no rage. For a guy who follows the code of Passion, dude has very little.

That would be the 7 decades or so of Jedi training, IMHO.