The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Lord Lucien3,287 pages

It would have been an understandable "hop" in logic to conclude. She's supposed to be so smart and capable as to rig her husband with explosive microbial droids, and detonate them in the Jedi Temple, yet she's dumb enough to A.) run for no good reason, and B.) confess after being accused of misinterpreting Ahsoka's dangling participle. She could have easily provided that counter to Anakin's insinuation, and easily rebuffed the accusation that "running=guilt".

But the plot needed her to confess, so she did. As to "why" she did it--the plot needs us to believe that public sentiment is turning against the Jedi and the war, despite the viewer never being shown that. The show's writing is terrible.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It would have been an understandable "hop" in logic to conclude. She's supposed to be so smart and capable as to rig her husband with explosive microbial droids, and detonate them in the Jedi Temple, yet she's dumb enough to A.) run for no good reason, and B.) confess after being accused of misinterpreting Ahsoka's dangling participle. She could have easily provided that counter to Anakin's insinuation, and easily rebuffed the accusation that "running=guilt".

But the plot needed her to confess, so she did. As to "why" she did it--the plot needs us to believe that public sentiment is turning against the Jedi and the war, despite the viewer never being shown that. The show's writing is terrible.

Quite so. 😆

After I watched the episode where Dooku was captured by pirates, I didn't take it seriously anymore.

Even the Pilot movie was incredibly infantile. And I even went and saw that in theatres.

So I went to the Pilot, and watched the first season when it came out, but found it to be incredibly lacking.

Seems more like it was written for the kids.

It is for kids. That's not a bad thing, I just wish they realized that kids don't need homogeneity and tripe wrapped around simplicity and lightsabers in order to be entertained.

Though... kudos to Lucasfilms for actually killing characters on-screen. In the course of two episodes we see two implements and a decapitation. So they don't insult kids' intelligence by sugar coating death, but otherwise don't bother with much substance.

"Sabotage" completely killed the momentum of "The Lawless." facepalm

On the featurette, Dave said "George wanted us to do a crime procedural." haermm

Originally posted by Rookwood
After I watched the episode where Dooku was captured by pirates, I didn't take it seriously anymore.

Even the Pilot movie was incredibly infantile. And I even went and saw that in theatres.

So I went to the Pilot, and watched the first season when it came out, but found it to be incredibly lacking.

Seems more like it was written for the kids.

The CW movie and the first season were the most kiddish. Since then there have been some very political episodes and a fair bit of decapitation. (Still for kids, but probably now aimed at much older kids like SW always was. It was just a nice side effect that adults loved it too).

I don't get the problem with a weaponless Dooku getting captured by 30 armed pirates ambushing him?

Have you forgotten in AOTC a whole army of armed Jedi were getting defeated by a battalion of droids surrounding them?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
I don't get the problem with a weaponless Dooku getting captured by 30 armed pirates ambushing him?

What don't you get?

He's a powerful Sith Lord; can pwn the crap out of other extremely deadly people, and he has Force abilities and enhanced reflexes that make ambushes by groups of non-Force sensitives completely pointless.

Him getting captured was the result of Retarded-writing.

It demonstrated how that show was being written at a 3rd Grade level - and should be beneath any adults notice.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Have you forgotten in AOTC a whole army of armed Jedi were getting defeated by a battalion of droids surrounding them?

Whole army of "Jedi"?

The only members of that strike force that got killed in significant number, were Padawans.

The Knights and Masters largely managed to fight their way out of the arena, and the small group that got flushed into a circle were almost completely Knights and Masters.

A Padawan getting gunned down by a mook is plausible - a Dark Lord of the Sith, and a powerful one at that, being in danger of a mook(s) gunning him down, especially when there are only a few dozen present, is laughably-retarded.

It has no plausibility to it, and was essentially one of the things that killed that shows intellectual credibility.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It is for kids. That's not a bad thing, I just wish they realized that kids don't need homogeneity and tripe wrapped around simplicity and lightsabers in order to be entertained.

Though... kudos to Lucasfilms for actually killing characters on-screen. In the course of two episodes we see two implements and a decapitation. So they don't insult kids' intelligence by sugar coating death, but otherwise don't bother with much substance.

I wouldn't say it's deserving of kudos - the decapitation was completely obscured by the girl's back.

A child would never even know exactly what happened. Just that Pre Vizsla was, in George Lucas's words: "Bye bye..daahhh"

Lucas is the master at being lazy and taking shortcuts.

It's how he cobbled together Star Wars from the sweat and blood of a previous author: Frank Herbert.

"Originally intended to be a vibroblade, George Lucas decided that, to preserve the uniqueness of the Jedi weapon, a lightsaber should not be seen to be blocked by sword-like weapon that is not a lightsaber. With that in mind, Lucas and the show's crew conceived of an ancient precursor to the lightsaber which they named the darksaber"

- What a ****ing retard.

Lightsabers have been canonically blocked by cortosis-weaved blades, before.

At least George Lucas can be proud of the fact that he's probably the most famous person with Down Syndrome, in history.

Originally posted by Rookwood
What don't you get?

He's a powerful Sith Lord; can pwn the crap out of other extremely deadly people, and he has Force abilities and enhanced reflexes that make ambushes by groups of non-Force sensitives completely pointless.

Him getting captured was the result of Retarded-writing.

It demonstrated how that show was being written at a 3rd Grade level - and should be beneath any adults notice.

Whole army of "Jedi"?

The only members of that strike force that got killed in significant number, were Padawans.

The Knights and Masters largely managed to fight their way out of the arena, and the small group that got flushed into a circle were almost completely Knights and Masters.

A Padawan getting gunned down by a mook is plausible - a Dark Lord of the Sith, and a powerful one at that, being in danger of a mook(s) gunning him down, especially when there are only a few dozen present, is laughably-retarded.

It has no plausibility to it, and was essentially one of the things that killed that shows intellectual credibility.

There's nothing Dooku could have done in that situation being completely surrounded and with no Lightsaber. He could have taken out say all the ones in front of him with a Force blast, but at least a few of the shots from behind him would have got him.

Oh and they were all about to be defeated in AOTC until the Clone Army came to rescue them.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
There's nothing Dooku could have done in that situation being completely surrounded and with no Lightsaber. He could have taken out say all the ones in front of him with a Force blast, but at least a few of the shots from behind him would have got him.

In front of him??

Do you know how stupid you sound?

1. Dooku could release a Force wave ALL AROUND HIM and knock the pirates down, or knock the wind out of them.

2. Dooku could use Telekinesis to simply rip their own weapons out of their hands, and then fry them with Lightning.

3. Dooku could use Telekinesis to break all their necks simultaneously.

4. Dooku could use Persuasion to have them all drop their weapons; even shoot themselves.

Doing none of this, is the result of Retarded-writing. Period. The end.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

Oh and they were all about to be defeated in AOTC until the Clone Army came to rescue them.

And?

Until Yoda showed up with the Clones later, the majority of the Knights and Masters were handling the droids just fine.

Nah, the movie, script, and novel are pretty clear that the Jedi were finished without Yoda's timely intervention.

The idea of Force users soloing armies contradicts the highest canon and is retarded tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, the movie, script, and novel are pretty clear that the Jedi were finished without Yoda's timely intervention.

The idea of Force users soloing armies contradicts the highest canon and is retarded tbh.

Oh, I know.

DP was just implying that the Masters and Knights were getting knocked off like the Padawans largely were, which wasn't the case.

That's why the idea of Dooku being captured by pirates no longer irks me. It's consistent with the highest canon, though Filoni conceded Dooku would still have killed most of them even unarmed (which he was).

Having said that, though, TCW is pretty generous with its feats in later seasons. Maul casually tugging a Jedi shuttle off a cliff is better than any TK feat in the movies.

Originally posted by Rookwood
Oh, I know.

You know what? You were arguing the exact opposite.

Originally posted by Rookwood
DP was just implying that the Masters and Knights were getting knocked off like the Padawans largely were, which wasn't the case.

They were all about to die.

TCW is pretty consistent with the movies but it's actually shown cooler feats like Opress's force wave putting down all those Destroyer Droids. Same With Mace Windu's Force blast in the season 1 Ryloth Arc.

So I don't know what your problem with the show is. Because it seems every single time you complain about how retarded TCW is you bring up the Dooku getting captured by pirates thing.

It's consistent with the movies. So get over that issue.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
You know what? You were arguing the exact opposite.

I agreed with what he was saying; and explaining that you implied that the Knights and Masters were getting knocked off, as only the majority of the Padawans were.

And only them getting killed as they were in the battle, is what's plausible.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

They were all about to die.

But what you were arguing, is that Dooku being able to be killed in an unlikely way by non-Force sensitives, is akin to the "Jedi" dying during the attack of the Jedi at Geonosis.

And then I pointed out that only the Padawans largely died during that battle - not the Knights or Masters, whom Dooku is superior to.

And you weren't talking about the ones who "would die" - but the ones who were actually killed, and cited them as an example, which is erroneous.

Have you forgotten in AOTC a whole army of armed Jedi were getting defeated by a battalion of droids surrounding them?

Jedi? Padawans - not Knights or Masters, whom Dooku is superior to.

Fail.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER

TCW is pretty consistent with the movies but it's actually shown cooler feats like Opress's force wave putting down all those Destroyer Droids. Same With Mace Windu's Force blast in the season 1 Ryloth Arc.
So I don't know what your problem with the show is. Because it seems every single time you complain about how retarded TCW is you bring up the Dooku getting captured by pirates thing.
It's consistent with the movies. So get over that issue.

Cooler feats? The show is for 5-year olds. I don't care if Sand-Box-Character "Savage Opress" can knock over some droids.

And we already know from Shatterpoint that Mace is a beast with TK, when he used it to ride and control a hill.

TCW is basically a moronic production and for the most part no more or less consistent with the movies than any other Clone Wars-oriented material.

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