And then I pointed out that only the Padawans largely died during that battle - not the Knights or Masters, whom Dooku is superior to.
It's not like Jedi lacked numbers, why would they send Padawans at all? Is there any sources that would support your claim?
There is nothing wrong with masters dying. Opress before even getting lightsaber easily killed a Master. There were thousands Jedi and very few of them had comparable capabilities to council members. And even most of council members weren't very capable.
Also, show is not just for kids, show is for everyone just like all the movies.
Originally posted by Arhael
So every unknown character = padawan?It's not like Jedi lacked numbers, why would they send Padawans at all? Is there any sources that would support your claim?
Wow, where to begin with this. 😄
When people say things like this, it's like they're admitting outright that they aren't that knowledgeable in Jedi or Sith Lore.
I wish I could save them the embarrassment and talk to them first in private and explain where they're wrong, but ah well.
1. Given that you can visually see the "unknowns" on the screen, if you know anything about Jedi at all, you know a Padawan from his short haircut and Padawan-braid.
So, watch the movie, and point out the "unknowns" who have that attire. There you have your Padawans.
Now, if someone were visually-challenged, I could understand overlooking this. But otherwise, asking such a stupid question, should be really embarrassing for you.
2. Contrary to popular belief, Wookieepedia does have sources embedded in it's texts - and fascist Administrators who aggressively verify those sources constantly and sift through data to delete what doesn't belong.
- Ironically, if you are an expert in Jedi or Sith Lore, you shouldn't even need to consult that to glean proof of what I've spoken of - anyone who is well-learned in that Lore - already knows that the Jedi sent hundreds of their own to Geonosis, including, yes, Padawans - and if you know about the Lore - then you have no need to challenge it.
Unless you're a noob.
Originally posted by Arhael
There is nothing wrong with masters dying.
I never said there was. Only that it was mostly Padawans who died in the cluster****, before Yoda arrived, later.
Originally posted by Arhael
Opress before even getting lightsaber easily killed a Master. There were thousands Jedi and very few of them had comparable capabilities to council members. And even most of council members weren't very capable.
Duh.
Originally posted by Arhael
Also, show is not just for kids, show is for everyone just like all the movies.
Ahrael, you're so cute, sometimes. 😄
Originally posted by Rookwood
Wow, where to begin with this. 😄When people say things like this, it's like they're admitting outright that they aren't that knowledgeable in Jedi or Sith Lore.
I wish I could save them the embarrassment and talk to them first in private and explain where they're wrong, but ah well.
1. Given that you can visually see the "unknowns" on the screen, if you know anything about Jedi at all, you know a Padawan from his short haircut and Padawan-braid.
So, watch the movie, and point out the "unknowns" who have that attire. There you have your Padawans.
Now, if someone were visually-challenged, I could understand overlooking this. But otherwise, asking such a stupid question, should be really embarrassing for you.
2. Contrary to popular belief, Wookieepedia does have sources embedded in it's texts - and fascist Administrators who aggressively verify those sources constantly and sift through data to delete what doesn't belong.
- Ironically, if you are an expert in Jedi or Sith Lore, you shouldn't even need to consult that to glean proof of what I've spoken of - anyone who is well-learned in that Lore - already knows that the Jedi sent hundreds of their own to Geonosis, including, yes, Padawans - and if you know about the Lore - then you have no need to challenge it.
Unless you're a noob.
There is nothing embarassing about that. It's been ages since I last watched film. Moreover, I had no purpose to look thoroughly at every character that gets as much as 2 seconds of screen time. And the fact that the braid on Anakin and Kenobi was so thin makes it even harder to spot them.
Now I watched it, there are plenty of Jedi with thick pony-tails, which makes it unclear, if it is sign of padawan or simply style.
I never said there was. Only that it was mostly Padawans who died in the cluster****, before Yoda arrived, later.
Second, you are wrong. Film doesn't give enough visual information to conclude that it was mostly padawans dying. I personally didn't see a single one dying, maybe I would on watching it several times but I don't need to.
Third, according to wookieepedia, which you just happened to praise, you are wrong as well. Majority of Jedi that died were Jedi Knights and Masters. Only 4 Padawans died.
Ahrael, you're so cute, sometimes. 😄
Originally posted by Arhael
Wow, so much crap out of you for nothing.There is nothing embarassing about that. It's been ages since I last watched film. Moreover, I had no purpose to look thoroughly at every character that gets as much as 2 seconds of screen time. And the fact that the braid on Anakin and Kenobi was so thin makes it even harder to spot them.
Oh come on Ahrael. That is a terrible excuse. 🙄
Horrible. You still made yourself look like a complete noob.
Originally posted by Arhael
Now I watched it, there are plenty of Jedi with thick pony-tails, which makes it unclear, if it is sign of padawan or simply style.
Ahrael, stop embarrassing yourself - Padawans have ponytails too, remember?
It's a short haircut, ponytail, then Padawan braid.
My God, man. 🙄
And please don't tell me you forgot about that - otherwise you're just killing your credibility, here.
Originally posted by Arhael
First, if you agree that even Masters were dying then what was the point to bring it up? Those Jedi were shielding each other's back and were still dying. But Dooku was surrounded with his back exposed.
And? How many excuses are you going to fish for? That's weak.
There were hundreds and hundreds of opponent's attacking the Jedi strike force - and the circle at the center of the arena was not all of the Jedi who came - there were Masters and Knights who broke off in the earlier battle and fled into the innards of the arena. (You weren't aware of that?)
Now, apparently there were a billion battle Droids deployed (but that was likely throughout the course of the battle) but a fraction of that, as we see in the movie, would still make it where every Knight and Master was surrounded (at every point) and outnumbered roughly a hundred to one - which makes the number Dooku faced look like nothing.
The Padawans being cut down is understandable, but essentially, Knights and Masters that Dooku is superior to, survived the onslaught of hundreds of battle droids, per one Jedi, but nearly every Padawan died.
If there are Jedi Masters and Knights whom Dooku is superior to, surviving the odds of a hundred battle droids against them, from every angle throughout the course of the battle, Dooku should be able to take out thirty rag-tag pirates, with his superior abilities.
Originally posted by Arhael
Second, you are wrong. Film doesn't give enough visual information to conclude that it was mostly padawans dying. I personally didn't see a single one dying, maybe I would on watching it several times but I don't need to.
No, obviously you do (you couldn't even remember proper Padawan attire, for Pete's sake!) There is even a scene where a group of Padawans are doing a tactical-retreat; getting cut down as they do.
Now that you've been reminded of what a Padawan looks like, you can go back and rewatch those scenes again. 🙄
Originally posted by Arhael
Third, according to wookieepedia, which you just happened to praise, you are wrong as well. Majority of Jedi that died were Jedi Knights and Masters. Only 4 Padawans died.
Only four named Padawans.
If you use your eyes, you can see droves of Padawans dying through the course of the battle - and while at the end there are multiple Knights and Masters alive - only two Padawans survived.
So the majority of Jedi that died were Padawans.
And now that you know what a Padawan looks like, you can go back and realize this. 😄
Originally posted by Arhael
And you are not, always! ;(
You know I platonically love you!
I just don't want you to make an ass out of yourself.
And you're a nice guy, and you end up doing that, sometimes.
Ahrael, stop embarrassing yourself - Padawans have ponytails too, remember?
It's a short haircut, ponytail, then Padawan braid.My God, man. 🙄
And please don't tell me you forgot about that - otherwise you're just killing your credibility, here.
And? How many excuses are you going to fish for? That's weak.There were hundreds and hundreds of opponent's attacking the Jedi strike force - and the circle at the center of the arena was not all of the Jedi who came - there were Masters and Knights who broke off in the earlier battle and fled into the innards of the arena. (You weren't aware of that?)
Now, apparently there were a billion battle Droids deployed (but that was likely throughout the course of the battle) but a fraction of that, as we see in the movie, would still make it where every Knight and Master was surrounded (at every point) and outnumbered roughly a hundred to one - which makes the number Dooku faced look like nothing.
The Padawans being cut down is understandable, but essentially, Knights and Masters that Dooku is superior to, survived the onslaught of hundreds of battle droids, per one Jedi, but nearly every Padawan died.
If there are Jedi Masters and Knights whom Dooku is superior to, surviving the odds of a hundred battle droids against them, from every angle throughout the course of the battle, Dooku should be able to take out thirty rag-tag pirates, with his superior abilities.
No, obviously you do (you couldn't even remember proper Padawan attire, for Pete's sake!) There is even a scene where a group of Padawans are doing a tactical-retreat; getting cut down as they do.Now that you've been reminded of what a Padawan looks like, you can go back and rewatch those scenes again. 🙄
Only four named Padawans.If you use your eyes, you can see droves of Padawans dying through the course of the battle - and while at the end there are multiple Knights and Masters alive - only two Padawans survived.
So the majority of Jedi that died were Padawans.
And now that you know what a Padawan looks like, you can go back and realize this. 😄
You know I platonically love you!I just don't want you to make an ass out of yourself.
And you're a nice guy, and you end up doing that, sometimes.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not a jerk. I was recently compared to Jesus, I'll have you know. Of course such a comparison is laughable. I'm not quite Jesus-level yet...... Maybe Buddha. mmm
You are often the first person to resort to personal attacks, usually stemming from your fragile, pseudo-feminine mental state.