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A Mom went to have dinner with her son who lives with his roommate.
During the course of the meal, his mother couldn’t help but notice how handsome his roommate was. She had been suspicious about her sons sexuality but being a good mother she felt that he would let her know if and when the time was right but seeing the two together just made her more curious.

Over the course of the evening, while watching the interaction between the two she wondered even more if there was more here than meets the eye. Her son, sensing his mothers watchfully eye volunteered, “really Mom, I can tell what you’re thinking and you can just get it out of your mind, we are just roommates and nothing more”.

About a week later the roommate remarked, “ever since your mother was here the silver serving platter has been missing, do you think she took it?”

He responded, “Well I’m sure she didn’t but I will email her and ask just to be sure” he sat down and wrote:

Hey Mom
I’m not saying you did take the silver platter from the house and I am not saying you didn’t take it but the fact remains that it has been missing ever since you were here for dinner.
Love,
Your Son.

A couple days later he got a response from his mother:

Dear Son,
I am not saying that you do sleep with your roommate and I am not saying that you don’t sleep with him and you know I love you and could care less either way but the fact remains that if he was sleeping in his own bed he would have found the platter under his pillow.
When are the two of you coming for dinner?
Love,
Mom

OH SNAP!

Did your mom ever give the silver platter back?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Did your mom ever give the silver platter back?

no, the moral of the story was it was in RN's bed the whole time. : ) cute story actually. I don't understand why people think people who love each other shouldn't be together...

^^ One of the reasons I'll probably never be an ideal believer. My tenuous rationalization is that if there is a God and He hates homosexuals, that's His imperative. As someone who is not God but is a politically-astute voting member of a democratic republic, I'm a proponent of gay rights all day, any day.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Did your mom ever give the silver platter back?

That story's clearly not about me. We only sleep in his bed, not mine.

I am going to be in Oxford next summer... 😖hifty:

It's mostly a generational gap. I was talking to a post-grad student about the HRC campaign and how he manages to reconcile that with his Catholicism. He said that he notices that as new classes come in, it has just stopped being a pressing issue on the minds of the younger generation.

this place has slowed down more than considerably.

So stop reversing the trend with all these posts. We were on a roll.

Hey Gideon, I'm reading TUF right now, specifically the part involving Luke's "hyperbole" in the Citadel. The meld part only appears when he enters Shimraa's chambers. The whole "10 or 20 blades" and what not appears before that and I'm not sure when the Meld comes in.

The meld is only ever mentioned directly when Luke, Jacen, and Jaina reach Shimrra's throne room.

The essential guide to The Force indicates the meld happens before that, but the recently released Reader's Companion explains that their slaughter of the Vong hordes on the way to Shimrra was just Luke channeling the Force like a boss.

Ok so I guess that settles that.

Another thing. Jacen's "oneness" is the same description that was given to what Revan did to fight off Vitiate. "Light and dark sides became something he could balance within himself".

Similar, not identical.

And what do you think of it? TUF is a top five Star Wars book for me.

Based on what I know from the Vong War, it was very good but ultimately anti climactic. I read all 19 novels within a 2 month period and I'd say the best was anywhere there was an exchange between Jacen and Vergere. That kind of mental masturbation I can deal with.

…Huh.

History has shown us to have fairly similar preferences with respect to Star Wars works, so I’m genuinely surprised that it didn’t awe you. What’s more curious is the nature of your criticism—that the book was anti-climactic.

Personally, I found TUF to be the most climactic novel I’ve ever read in the mythology. Luceno, the consummate master of continuity, dexterously weaves together narratives spooled by more than half a dozen other authors. Not only that, but there is genuine closure: The decapitation of the Vong leadership heralds another lengthy segment that explores the immediate aftermath of the war in a number of ways, from a multitude of perspectives. I loved it.

Stover’s Traitor is superb (as are the philosophical elements of the underrated Destiny’s Way, namely Vergere’s debates with Luke), but Stover is too liberal with poetic waxing and purple prose. Ironically, it’s Luceno’s adoption of this flaw that weakened Darth Plagueis.

But that’s just me.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
…Huh.

History has shown us to have fairly similar preferences with respect to Star Wars works, so I’m genuinely surprised that it didn’t awe you. What’s more curious is the nature of your criticism—that the book was anti-climactic.

Personally, I found TUF to be the most climactic novel I’ve ever read in the mythology. Luceno, the consummate master of continuity, dexterously weaves together narratives spooled by more than half a dozen other authors. Not only that, but there is genuine closure: The decapitation of the Vong leadership heralds another lengthy segment that explores the immediate aftermath of the war in a number of ways, from a multitude of perspectives. I loved it.

Stover’s Traitor is superb (as are the philosophical elements of the underrated Destiny’s Way, namely Vergere’s debates with Luke), but Stover is too liberal with poetic waxing and purple prose. Ironically, it’s Luceno’s adoption of this flaw that weakened Darth Plagueis.

But that’s just me.

Because I originally read about the Vong War through Wikipedia so I guess an abridged version is going to be more climactic obviously. But the fight with Shimraa was retarded. The description of the Onimi fight was phenomenal though. I thought they needed to add more to the ending though. A little like the LOTR endings but not the 50 of them that followed. All in all it was a very good book but I enjoyed the exchanges between Vergere and Jacen more than anything else.

Originally posted by steveholt955
Because I originally read about the Vong War through Wikipedia so I guess an abridged version is going to be more climactic obviously.

An abridged version of what?

Originally posted by steveholt955
But the fight with Shimraa was retarded.

How so?

Originally posted by steveholt955
The description of the Onimi fight was phenomenal though. I thought they needed to add more to the ending though. A little like the LOTR endings but not the 50 of them that followed. All in all it was a very good book but I enjoyed the exchanges between Vergere and Jacen more than anything else.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
…Huh.

History has shown us to have fairly similar preferences with respect to Star Wars works, so I’m genuinely surprised that it didn’t awe you. What’s more curious is the nature of your criticism—that the book was anti-climactic.

Personally, I found TUF to be the most climactic novel I’ve ever read in the mythology. Luceno, the consummate master of continuity, dexterously weaves together narratives spooled by more than half a dozen other authors. Not only that, but there is genuine closure: The decapitation of the Vong leadership heralds another lengthy segment that explores the immediate aftermath of the war in a number of ways, from a multitude of perspectives. I loved it.

Stover’s Traitor is superb (as are the philosophical elements of the underrated Destiny’s Way, namely Vergere’s debates with Luke), but Stover is too liberal with poetic waxing and purple prose. Ironically, it’s Luceno’s adoption of this flaw that weakened Darth Plagueis.

But that’s just me.

Scumbag KMC poster
Complains about purple prose

while using purple prose

There's nothing wrong with a little purple prose. But Stover's works are drenched in it.

Why did you edit that out?

interesting fact Gid, i had a who is facebook friends with you come look at my apartment last month in chicago. small world. his name was luke. did i miss out on the most amazing roommate ever?