The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Also, a very happy birthday to my friend and yours, Truejedi!

England sucks

Indeed.

New around here?

Originally posted by Willia1dak
Dude only mods can make social threads in forums like this one.

Was this you impersonating a bot, Sexy? The smiley seems inconsistent with how they usually copy and paste existing posts.

Happy birthday TJ!

Originally posted by noitseuq
Was this you impersonating a bot, Sexy? The smiley seems inconsistent with how they usually copy and paste existing posts.

Does that sound like a question I would ask?

Gid, Neph: Luke Skywalker Must Die

DS, did you listen to the Planet Money podcast about carbon taxes? The claim was that you could halve the Global-Warming trend with a tax of (initially) only about 400$ per person, which would then be reimbursed in the form of income tax reductions. I was particularly enthusiastic about the idea because it only makes products more expensive relative to others, but does not necessarily reduce the income of any specific household. (This by way of eco-friendly products becoming objectively cheaper, which is not actually discussed in the episode.)

This is definitely a redistribution of wealth from polluting industries to the rest, but it is too long that they have been riding on our backs and expecting the rest of the world to bear the costs of their pollution. Is internalizing negative externalities something that laissez faire schools of thought can get behind?

My biggest concern was that they ignored the extra costs imposed on food production. The carbon tax on shipping was declared to be "almost insignificant," but they didn't talk about the cost of carbon involved in growing the food in the first place.

(I am starting to have opinions about my major which I am confident enough to defend! It's nice to feel competent in a real-world subject that isn't philosophy or math.)


DS, did you listen to the Planet Money podcast about carbon taxes? The claim was that you could halve the Global-Warming trend with a tax of (initially) only about 400$ per person, which would then be reimbursed in the form of income tax reductions. I was particularly enthusiastic about the idea because it only makes products more expensive relative to others, but does not necessarily reduce the income of any specific household. (This by way of eco-friendly products becoming objectively cheaper, which is not actually discussed in the episode.)

I did not and that is a particularly bold claim to make. I'd like a link to the podcast.

This is definitely a redistribution of wealth from polluting industries to the rest, but it is too long that they have been riding on our backs and expecting the rest of the world to bear the costs of their pollution. Is internalizing negative externalities something that laissez faire schools of thought can get behind?

While it is not a main tenet of laissez fare, it can be logically deduced as being consistent with many principles of laissez fare.

My biggest concern was that they ignored the extra costs imposed on food production. The carbon tax on shipping was declared to be "almost insignificant," but they didn't talk about the cost of carbon involved in growing the food in the first place.

Why did they ignore the food production costs?

(I am starting to have opinions about my major which I am confident enough to defend! It's nice to feel competent in a real-world subject that isn't philosophy or math.) [/B]
Congratulations, now we can slowly start discussing these matters. I still would like to hear the podcast in its entirety or at the very least, this portion of the podcast.

Originally posted by DudleyMoo23
I did not and that is a particularly bold claim to make. I'd like a link to the podcast.

I'm on it!
It's about 20 minutes long. The last 5 minutes would probably suffice. (The specific claim was that this specific carbon tax, if applied to the entire world, could reduce the increase in temperature from the currently projected 5 degrees over 100 years down to only 2 degrees over 100 years. Notably, this would have to apply to China and India and South America, so that is probably just sensationalism.)


While it is not a main tenet of laissez fare, it can be logically deduced as being consistent with many principles of laissez fare.

Why did they ignore the food production costs?


Well, it's more that they didn't actually talk about them. The guy they were interviewing had done some calculations in the past and was trying to assure the listeners that the cost of goods from far away would not change much. The example used was kiwi fruit from NZ. The proposed tax on shipping would cause an increase in price that was "negligible."

Congratulations, now we can slowly start discussing these matters. I still would like to hear the podcast in its entirety or at the very least, this portion of the podcast.

Link at top, and here again (no transcript available yet)
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/07/12/201502003/episode-472-the-one-page-plan-to-fix-global-warming

Originally posted by Zampanó
Gid, Neph: Luke Skywalker Must Die

Luke should have died against Abeloth. As lame as she was, she was suitably powerful enough to be Luke's final battle. They're not going to be able to top her so now whatever does kill him is going to be wildly anti-climatic and/or stupid.

Give him a Ganner Rhysode death and be done with it. He's holding back the series. Have Han and Leia bugger off and leave things to the younger people so they can die peacefully off-screen.

I'll check out the podcast and get with you today.

Originally posted by Zampanó
Gid, Neph: Luke Skywalker Must Die

That was a good read, a while back.

Originally posted by Zampanó
Happy birthday TJ!

thanks kyle!

Luke ****ing skywalker is going to die of old age. Stop plotting against him. --his biggest fanboy.

anybody on this forum a little alarmed about how much health insurance is going to cost people our age? I've heard it could go up 80 percent... i barely manage to pay for it as is.

I get free healthcare because England is baller as hell.

Oh yeah and happy birthday. Sorry it was late.

Originally posted by truejedi
thanks kyle!

Luke ****ing skywalker is going to die of old age. Stop plotting against him. --his biggest fanboy.

Good to see I didn't get a thank you, even though I said it first. uhuh

sorry i didn't go back that far! thanks though!

Originally posted by Nephthys
I get free healthcare because England is baller as hell.

Oh yeah and happy birthday. Sorry it was late.

How's that 50% tax rate?

It's on the same page. 😐

Dudley, find out if Neph is still mad at me. I miss my little English muffin. 😬

Originally posted by truejedi
anybody on this forum a little alarmed about how much health insurance is going to cost people our age? I've heard it could go up 80 percent... i barely manage to pay for it as is.
No.

---A Canadian.