Originally posted by Nephthys
1.I've never seen that stuff. If I did I would call it out. Though its hardly the same thing.2.White people aren't discriminated against like minorities are.
1.Really?. Because its in our culture all the time. Mad minorities(blacks and mexicans) rant about how much they hate police and white people pretty much everywhere. And good that u would call it out, because large amounts of liberals I have met would refuse to even call it out.
2.Disagree completely here. White Supremacists are treated like dog shit(which they should be!) but Black Supremacists are treated like Heroes. Look at Malcolm X. The man was a pure evil extreme racist who preached that whites were devils and all whites should die. Yet he is regarded as SOME sort of civil rights hero, when he should be regarded in the exact same light as the KKK for the shit he said about Whites and Jews.
Also there are TONS of Black Supremacist politicans(who were members of the Black Panther Party a openly anti-white, anti-american, and communist party which preached racial hatered) in office. ALMOST NO ONE says anything about it. Look at Sotamyor the court judge she literally stated White people are inferior to Latinos. When David Duke a white supremacist/neo nazi ran for office in louisana EVERYONE hated him all the Republicans denounced him all the Democrats and he lost badly. But when Charlie Rengel or Sotyamior or one of them runs(who are JUST as bad/evil as David Duke) run NOTHING happens and ALMOST NO ONE CARES.
Point is ALL forms of racists should be treated like shit. White, Black, dosint matter. We are all individuals and most of the people who call the Republicans "racist" are ignorant idiots who know nothing of politics.
1. Maybe minorities are mad because they're minorities?
2. Yes, racists of all kinds suck, but white supremacists are worse because black etc people are ACTUALLY discriminated against in society and theres a history of discrimination against them. A black racist doesn't have that history of violence behind their words, nor as much of an opportunity to act on his hatred or enforce his views as a white racist does.
I should say though that you're coming off as a bit defensive here. Just because some black people are racist doesn't make white racism okay, nor the fact that you apparently find it funny?
This thread makes more sense than all the other threads in this forum..
Originally posted by Nephthys
2. Yes, racists of all kinds suck, but white supremacists are worse because black etc people are ACTUALLY discriminated against in society and theres a history of discrimination against them. A black racist doesn't have that history of violence behind their words, nor as much of an opportunity to act on his hatred or enforce his views as a white racist does.
Okay. So if a Blackman hates a Whiteman its "not as bad" because he's had a history of discrimination?.
Racism in all forms is evil period. Is a Black guy hates a white guy cuz of his race im gona call him out. If a White guy hates a Black guy because of his race ima call him out. Its equally evil.
And yeah that picture is going to far, Im just saying that theres just as much racist shit against whites.
Originally posted by NephthysOMG, are they ****ing serious with this?
Meh, not sure where you got this but whoever posted this must have ignored the rest of the comic in an attempt to find sexism. After all, most of the other characters including men such as Captain America don't have chest-plates either. Presumably to allow the reader to more easily tell who is who.
ok. this thread is making me want to RAGE so let's just go with this:
1. ares: having everybody (or nobody) have a space-resistant outfit is not really the issue. Instead, this is an example of framing Hawkgirl as a nice set of knockers and not much else. It is difficult to argue that super heronine character design is realistic or practical or authentic.
2. It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It's hard to argue that ANY super hero's costume is realistic or authentic or practical. Why do 90% of male superheroes wear spandex? It certainly isn't for practicality- it's to show off that hot bod.
Frankly, if I have to put up with Captain America's bulging crotch in every panel, the bitches should suffer too.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
It's hard to argue that ANY super hero's costume is realistic or authentic or practical. Why do 90% of male superheroes wear spandex? It certainly isn't for practicality- it's to show off that hot bod.Frankly, if I have to put up with Captain America's bulging crotch in every panel, the bitches should suffer too.
(Slice of life anime comics are drawn with male characters for girls to obsess over, and they certainly are not spandex-highlighted muscle gods.)
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
I'm aware that women in comics are drawn to appeal to men.I am, in fact, a man who likes women. So I appreciate this effort on the artists' part.
That doesn't address the topic nor my point though, which is that the majority of superheroes in comics look retarded.
As for looks, I think we can all agree that the best looking Marvelverse character is Pepper (while wearing the Suit).
Feminists are silly people.
I understand that sentiment- I feel that way about women in movies (the lead female in Pacific Rim for exam- no wait she was literally the only woman in the entire film- pissed me off intensely due to her lack of character), but, there is a difference between sexy and sexist. If this character (who I assume is Spider-Woman, I can't tell for sure) exhibits zero additional traits beyond her sex appeal, than sure- one could argue that she's a sexist caricature. But, this is a single scan of a 20+ page issue. It's possible that the very next page could show her using her super genius to save the entire party. So, to look at this single scan and assume that sexism is at work based upon nothing but her outfit is rather knee-jerky when you consider that it's a comic book and most of the cast looks ridiculous.
Originally posted by Zampanó
It is impossible to be racist against white people.It is impossible to be racist against white people.
to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is [b]impossibleIt is impossible to be racist against white people. [/B]
Are you serious?.
Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Are you serious?.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Feminists are silly people.I understand that sentiment- I feel that way about women in movies (the lead female in Pacific Rim for exam- no wait she was literally the only woman in the entire film- pissed me off intensely due to her lack of character), but, there is a difference between sexy and sexist. If this character (who I assume is Spider-Woman, I can't tell for sure) exhibits zero additional traits beyond her sex appeal, than sure- one could argue that she's a sexist caricature. But, this is a single scan of a 20+ page issue. It's possible that the very next page could show her using her super genius to save the entire party. So, to look at this single scan and assume that sexism is at work based upon nothing but her outfit is rather knee-jerky when you consider that it's a comic book and most of the cast looks ridiculous.
And the difference between women's treatment in comics (objectification, unattainable stylization) and men's treatment in comics (idealization, unattainable stylization) is the way that attitudes translate into real-world behavior. Generally speaking, comics nerds aren't terribly inviting to female readers. That is the root of the objection, I think.
Originally posted by Zampanó
1.Hush dear, the grown-ups are talking.2. will grant you that a single scan does not demonstrate the sexism of a particular piece of work. So the specific comic may or may not turn out to be insensitive. But the thrust of the argument as I understand it is that women are portrayed as masturbatory fantasies across the entire medium of comics. So, like, a female protagonist may save the day. Sure. But just by dint of being in a comic she will be painted as some sort of idealized sex-symbol.
And the difference between women's treatment in comics (objectification, unattainable stylization) and men's treatment in comics (idealization, unattainable stylization) is the way that attitudes translate into real-world behavior. Generally speaking, comics nerds aren't terribly inviting to female readers. That is the root of the objection, I think.
1.No thank you. And I seriously hope your trolling on the above post.
2.Feminism is a giant joke. 😂 😂 😂 😂
Originally posted by ROTJ VaderMalcolm X very publicly reevaluated his original opinion on white people.
2.Disagree completely here. White Supremacists are treated like dog shit(which they should be!) but Black Supremacists are treated like Heroes. Look at Malcolm X. The man was a pure evil extreme racist who preached that whites were devils and all whites should die. Yet he is regarded as SOME sort of civil rights hero, when he should be regarded in the exact same light as the KKK for the shit he said about Whites and Jews.
"Pure evil extreme racist", lol. Have evidence of any whites he killed?
Originally posted by Zampanó
2. It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.It is impossible to be racist against white people.
to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is impossible to be racist against white people.
It is [b]impossibleIt is impossible to be racist against white people. [/B]
Try not to say incredibly stupid things in the future.