The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Stealth Moose3,287 pages
Originally posted by The_Tempest
No, that was ROTS, Moose.

They blur together in my mind a lot.

Not familiar with their early '90s work. Thinking mostly of the late '90s stuff onward. Like "Iris" and "Slide."

@SM, except for ROTS novel. But I get you, though.

Damn, I'm slow with replies.

I always liked the ROTS novel but thought it was overrated until I heard it on audiobook during the summer/fall season. Stover really did a hell of a job with it, Dooku's horrific mischaracterization notwithstanding.

It really deserves its universal praise.

I have tried to watch it from the start, but it was just plain boring. I mean, droid arc and youngling arc? Come on, seriously. And bringing back Maul was ridiculous.

The PT's best material is written books, not the visuals.

And I hope by Ahsoka that you mean her escape at the end of S5, which I did watch, which was admittedly decent.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I always liked the ROTS novel but thought it was overrated until I heard it on audiobook during the summer/fall season. Stover really did a hell of a job with it, Dooku's horrific mischaracterization notwithstanding.

It really deserves its universal praise.

I thought Shatterpoint was much better, and Dark Rendezvous better still.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I have tried to watch it from the start, but it was just plain boring. I mean, droid arc and youngling arc? Come on, seriously. And bringing back Maul was ridiculous.

The PT's best material is written books, not the visuals.

And I hope by Ahsoka that you mean her escape at the end of S5, which I did watch, which was admittedly decent.

👆

Originally posted by Intrepid37
I have tried to watch it from the start, but it was just plain boring. I mean, droid arc and youngling arc? Come on, seriously. And bringing back Maul was ridiculous.

Diff'rent strokes, bro.

The droid arc was laem (haven't watched the vast majority of it); the younglings arc was okay- just some OT escapism in the midst of all that grim!dark war. The droid Huyang was a great character. Grievous came off looking silly at the end of it, though, but the duel with Ahsoka was well choreographed.

As far as Maul goes, I was staunchly opposed the decision initially but Witwer's voice acting and the storytelling surrounding his resurrection was really top notch.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
The PT's best material is written books, not the visuals.

I'd probably agree.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
And I hope by Ahsoka that you mean her escape at the end of S5, which I did watch, which was admittedly decent.

Yeah, that's it.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
I thought Shatterpoint was much better, and Dark Rendezvous better still.

You'll have no arguments from me on Dark Rendezvous, which is the best book in the totality of the EU. Shatterpoint is probably top 5 for me as well, but ROTS is better imho.

Yoda was likable in that work, which seems to be unheard of in the PT.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not familiar with their early '90s work. Thinking mostly of the late '90s stuff onward. Like "Iris" and "Slide."

I grew up on "A Boy Named Goo". I still consider it one of my favorite albums.

I can't sing enough praises for Y😄R. Stewart managed to bridge the Yoda of both trilogies and OCs like Scout were amazing.

Also, his Sidious is creepy awesome.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I always liked the ROTS novel but thought it was overrated until I heard it on audiobook during the summer/fall season. Stover really did a hell of a job with it, Dooku's horrific mischaracterization notwithstanding.

It really deserves its universal praise.

👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Diff'rent strokes, bro.

The droid arc was laem (haven't watched the vast majority of it); the younglings arc was okay- just some OT escapism in the midst of all that grim!dark war. The droid Huyang was a great character. Grievous came off looking silly at the end of it, though, but the duel with Ahsoka was well choreographed.

As far as Maul goes, I was staunchly opposed the decision initially but Witwer's voice acting and the storytelling surrounding his resurrection was really top notch.

I'd probably agree.

Yeah, that's it.


Rebels looks equally bad with another 14 year old boy leading the rebellion apparantly, and the Inquisitor is a mix of the Son and Maul, which is bad.

I'm not digging Rebels at all. My assessment of the PT vs. the OT has always been that the former gives a flawed execution of a much more interesting story whereas the OT gives a solid execution of a less engaging one.

Love both, but my interest has always been with the PT despite its many flaws.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm not digging Rebels at all. My assessment of the PT vs. the OT has always been that the former gives a flawed execution of a much more interesting story whereas the OT gives a solid execution of a less engaging one.

Love both, but my interest has always been with the PT despite its many flaws.


I like the timeline of the OT more, and its main characters as well but there's no arguing that the works attached to the PT era outshines everything else by a landslide.

Have you read Maul: Lockdown? Or intend to do so?

I flipped through it at Books-A-Million a few weeks ago. I was impressed with the subplot between Plagueis & Sidious.

Was it ever confirmed that

Spoiler:
Sidious had a hand Veruna's nuclear attack on Sojourn?

How many Darth Maul novels are they going to put out? That's like the third one in, what, a little over a year?

OT > PT imo. The PT had a lot of wasted potential. Specifically, the storyline was convoluted and lame regarding the war, Anakin was an unlikable douchbag, and the Jedi were likewise except for Obi and Qui-Gon. Even Yoda was a dick.

Maul sells.

Looking forward to the comic book mini-series that will wrap up his TCW storyline.