The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, a good reason why I hate him is because he's sooo much more of a dick in the books. We only see him through Tyrion and Tywin constantly shits on Tyrion.

His scenes with Arya in the second season are my favorite add ons. It adds a lot of depth to him. Also him shitting on Cersei and Joff repeatedly in the series make him far more likable.

Spoiler:
There was also his shielding of Tommen during the Red Wedding.

Show Tywin is much more cool. Still dislikeable imo though.

Originally posted by Tzeentch
To be fair, if the show is any consolation Tyrion seems to be a complete gary stu ******* and garbage character.

In the books he is incredibly hideous and had his nose chopped off, is completely delusional and up his own ass about certain matters, very bitter and cynical and he does and says numerous unpleasant things.

But he still is one of the most likeable characters.

Meant to say if the show is any indication.

But yeah, I enjoyed his character in the first half of season 1, then quickly grew tired of him beyond that point.

That's because you're a piece of shit, though. Remember that?

Originally posted by Tzeentch
To be fair, if the show is any consolation Tyrion seems to be a complete gary stu ******* and garbage character.
Why's that?

I should also mention that in the books (**** the show), Ser Gregor Clegane is the only thing Tywin shows any wariness toward. estahuh

Mountain > all your favorite ****ing characters. He'd eat Aerys' Kingsguard alive and spit out their armour.

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Beautiful trailer.

NemeBro
I should also mention that in the books (**** the show), Ser Gregor Clegane is the only thing Tywin shows any wariness toward.

Eh?
Spoiler:
I know Tywin values Clegane's talent, service, and reputation; I don't recall any particular "wariness" in the sense that he feels threatened. Underestimated him via his actions at King's Landing, if stuff like that is what you mean. Tywin's plenty wary of Robb Stark, though.

NemeBro
Mountain > all your favorite ****ing characters. He'd eat Aerys' Kingsguard alive and spit out their armour.

Nah.

Neeson is already an A list actor in my book, but when they continue to put him in roles where he murders everyone, a single tear drops down my face because it's so damn beautiful. Never stop Liam, never stop.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why's that?

I should also mention that in the books (**** the show), Ser Gregor Clegane is the only thing Tywin shows any wariness toward. estahuh

Mountain > all your favorite ****ing characters. He'd eat Aerys' Kingsguard alive and spit out their armour.

Your favorite character does what my favorite character tells him to do. Since your favorite character is my favorite character's b1tch, I win.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why's that?

I should also mention that in the books (**** the show), Ser Gregor Clegane is the only thing Tywin shows any wariness toward. estahuh

Mountain > all your favorite ****ing characters. He'd eat Aerys' Kingsguard alive and spit out their armour.

Source or stfu.

Prime Barristan, Jaime or Arthur Dayne would ****ing eat Gregor alive, Vargo Hoat style.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your favorite character does what my favorite character tells him to do. Since your favorite character is my favorite character's b1tch, I win.
Showfag leave. Go enjoy your babby's first dark fantasy somewhere else.

Originally posted by Eminence

Eh?

Spoiler:
I know Tywin values Clegane's talent, service, and reputation; I don't recall any particular "wariness" in the sense that he feels threatened. Underestimated him via his actions at King's Landing, if stuff like that is what you mean. Tywin's plenty wary of Robb Stark, though.

When Tyrion confronts Tywin on what Gregor did "under his orders", it is one of the few times where his domineering authority over his son quivers. He denies ordering the rape and murder of Elia, and said something along the likes of "I did not know the manner of creature I had in Gregor Clegane at the time, only that he was a giant and fearless in battle. Since then I have learned to be more... Careful in my dealings with him."

Or something like that.

Nah.

Yah.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Prime Barristan, Jaime or Arthur Dayne would ****ing eat Gregor alive, Vargo Hoat style.

Replace the innkeeper's daughter with the Kingsguard.

Personally I never pictured Gregor smiling, ever. He seemed like some sort of automaton, or a troll. Just some sort of animal that rapes and kills without getting any real satisfaction from it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Prime Barristan, Jaime or Arthur Dayne would ****ing eat Gregor alive, Vargo Hoat style.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Personally I never pictured Gregor smiling, ever. He seemed like some sort of automaton, or a troll. Just some sort of animal that rapes and kills without getting any real satisfaction from it.
That's actually exactly how I picture him. 👆

Gregor is a grim, stoic individual.

Also, only Dayne might beat Gregor. And only due to his sword.

Maybe. I mean granted both it and Valyrian Steel are still somehow featless.

Normal blades? Not a contest. Gregor can take them all one on one.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That's actually exactly how I picture him. 👆

Gregor is a grim, stoic individual.

Also, only Dayne might beat Gregor. And only due to his sword.

Maybe. I mean granted both it and Valyrian Steel are still somehow featless.

Normal blades? Not a contest. Gregor can take them all one on one.

SPOILERS:

Spoiler:
Gregor couldn't even beat Oberyn one on one. If it wasn't for him being too invested in personal revenge, he would have cakewalked Clegane.

Originally posted by Nephthys
SPOILERS:

Spoiler:
Gregor couldn't even beat Oberyn one on one. If it wasn't for him being too invested in personal revenge, he would have cakewalked Clegane.
I understand that you're a very stupid person with a tiny penis who sees Gregor's colossal cock and feels the need to diminish his prowess because of that, but you're missing a lot of context here.

Spoiler:
Gregor couldn't beat a very lightly armoured Oberyn wielding an eight foot long spear that was poisoned. Lightly armoured so he would have full mobility (Oberyn knew plate armour would serve as no protection against Gregor), and an eight foot long spear because "it is the only way to counter that reach of his". The poison's use is obvious.

Oh, and you're ignoring that he very nearly killed Oberyn partway through the duel. He smashed aside his shield and had Oberyn sprawling back to avoid death, only for the bystanders' screaming to avert Gregor's attention. He proceeded to butcher the crowd, allowing Oberyn to regain his composure.

Jaime and friends will be coming at Gregor fully armoured with heater shields and arming swords (Dayne using his greatsword I guess). They are somewhat slowed down by the weight of the armour (If not as much as some may think), and to attack Gregor they have to enter his kill range. They are also trying to penetrate the most heavily armoured knight in the kingdom. They will have to struggle to even harm him, whereas Gregor can kill them easily. A single glancing hit is going to knock them on their feet. He knocked Loras clear off his horse by hitting his shield, and he did it on foot.

Gregor wins. 👆

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