The Battle Bar, Our Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy

Started by Nephthys3,287 pages
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
War is one of the best things that can happen to any society anywhere, just as long as you win. Someone from England should be able to understand that. We, as in the Anglosphere, owe our best advances in tech and culture to it. Or do you prefer to speak French?

Yeah, the war on terror has been fantastic for America. A real accomplishment of wisdom and enlightenment. And it's been great with all the amazing tech you developed from it. I love drone strikes, so kawaii.

I think it's always best if a country just randomly invades a country a dozen times smaller and less advanced that them AT LEAST once every twenty years. Otherwise you just become Canada or Sweden or something. Maybe Denmark if you're lucky.

That traitor, tho.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No war beats some war.
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Very generic and ignorant. Besides, there's no such thing as "no war". There's always a war, whether it's now or 6 months from now.

Yeah, the war on terror has been fantastic for America. A real accomplishment of wisdom and enlightenment. And it's been great with all the amazing tech you developed from it. I love drone strikes, so kawaii.

Uh, we're killing hundreds of terrorists without so much as a fraction of casualties on our side so yea, it's working ok. The only problem is our country is only half committed. Either go all in or don't go at all. There are too many terrorists out there to be indifferent about. And also nobody wants to be speaking french, ever.

Originally posted by psmith81992
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Very generic and ignorant. Besides, there's no such thing as "no war". There's always a war, whether it's now or 6 months from now.

Yes healthy morality is generic, I agree. Believing in the sanctity of life is so cliche. But you're so right, remember all those wars Switzerland gets into every 6 months? What a bunch of b*stards.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Uh, we're killing hundreds of terrorists without so much as a fraction of casualties on our side so yea, it's working ok. The only problem is our country is only half committed. Either go all in or don't go at all. There are too many terrorists out there to be indifferent about. And also nobody wants to be speaking french, ever.

Cool, and the hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in Iraq and Afganistan are totally acceptable loses compared to a few hundred terrorists dead. Those seem like comparable figures to me!

Plus, it's not as if the wars have had ANY negative consequences for America and the rest of the world AT ALL. What even is a recession??? Debt? Sounds like a pussy word to me.

Please explain what you perceive to be "healthy morality". If it's extreme naivete which you seem to possess a lot of, then you and I will just agree to disagree. Sanctity of life? LOL. Switzerland? Here's 3 LOL LOL LOLs to name a country without any sort of context. I won't even point out the absurdity in your thought process or the exception to the rule. But you seem to have a first grader's understanding about the real world. I bet you think John Lennon's "imagine" made a lick of sense?

Agreeing with psmith makes me feel dirty.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Please explain what you perceive to be "healthy morality". If it's extreme naivete which you seem to possess a lot of, then you and I will just agree to disagree. Sanctity of life? LOL. Switzerland? Here's 3 LOL LOL LOLs to name a country without any sort of context. I won't even point out the absurdity in your thought process or the exception to the rule. But you seem to have a first grader's understanding about the real world. I bet you think John Lennon's "imagine" made a lick of sense?

Believing that peace is preferable to war. But yeah, I agree that it's naive. Afterall, neither you nor I have actually fought in any wars so I can't truly say whether one is better. Maybe killing people is actually super awesome and I'm just being close-minded to the possibilities.

And the obvious context was that you said theres no such thing as no war so I sarcastically named a country famous for not going to war for a very long time.

Also I only really listen to music about video games because I'm a cool person. Isn't imagine that song that's like incredibly successful and beloved by everyone though?

Believing that peace is preferable to war. But yeah, I agree that it's naive

Nobody prefers war to peace but that's great that you want to put words in our mouths. What the realistic people believe is that peace is a rare thing nowadays. But you're right, we will avert war by giving Iran some nuclear capabilities and they will in turn use those capabilities most likely on Israel. War averted!

Afterall, neither you nor I have actually fought in any wars so I can't truly say whether one is better. Maybe killing people is actually super awesome and I'm just being close-minded to the possibilities.

Yup, that's EXACTLY what we're saying. We don't even need to be involved in this debate. You can just imagine what you want the opposition to say and then argue against it! At least you are consistent with your ignorance.

"Ahoska has a ton to offer, of course. She is, to be honest, far better-trained than Kanan. She is a better lightsaber fighter than Kanan. There’s no doubt. She had a better teacher than Kanan, who was more fight combat-oriented than Anakin. So, she definitely could, if she wanted to, give Ezra a great deal of knowledge. But I would think that she’s very reluctant to do so because Ezra’s not her student. He’s Kanan’s student, and also Kanan is training Ezra on the path of the Jedi. And I think the important thing to wonder about, with Ahsoka is, when you get down to it, is knowing where she last was leaving the Order. There should be a lot of questions around, “Well, does that mean Ahsoka’s a Jedi now, or not?” What does that mean? Would she follow, per se, the path of the Jedi as laid out by the Order of the Jedi Knights? Or, is there some other teaching and learning in the ways of the Force that she is now following that’s different?" -- Dave Filoni

http://nerdist.com/star-wars-rebels-executive-producer-dave-filoni-discusses-season-1-and-whats-ahead/

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
War is one of the best things that can happen to any society anywhere, just as long as you win. Someone from England should be able to understand that. We, as in the Anglosphere, owe our best advances in tech and culture to it. Or do you prefer to speak French?
How edgy.

Originally posted by psmith81992
[B]Uh, we're killing hundreds of terrorists without so much as a fraction of casualties on our side so yea, it's working ok.
Then what are you complaining about? "Killing hundreds of terrorists" isn't enough action for you?

The only problem is our country is only half committed. Either go all in or don't go at all. There are too many terrorists out there to be indifferent about. And also nobody wants to be speaking french, ever.
There is a phenomenon I've noticed among conservative foreign policy, which is to slam Obama's foreign policy decision on the problems in the Middle East while failing utterly to present any concrete alternatives.

What does a "fully committed" America look like in your eyes, and if Obama's actions in dealing with ISIS and Iran is wrong, weak whatever, what would be the "proper" actions to take?

Then what are you complaining about? "Killing hundreds of terrorists" isn't enough action for you?

No, killing thousands would be better and allowing terrorist states ANY kind of nuclear capabilities..

There is a phenomenon I've noticed among conservative foreign policy, which is to slam Obama's foreign policy decision on the problems in the Middle East while failing utterly to present any concrete alternatives

The democrats pulled the same crap with Bush. It goes both ways. Start with Iran. If you're going to have Iran think they'll have nuclear capabilities at SOME point, the very least you can do is tell them to acknowledge the existence of Israel, or no deal. Bush may have been incompetent but I'll be damned if the rest of the uncivilized world doesn't think we're a bunch of pussies at this point.

What does a "fully committed" America look like in your eyes, and if Obama's actions in dealing with ISIS and Iran is wrong, weak whatever, what would be the "proper" actions to take?

More drone strikes, more soldiers training soldiers in the middle east, not meddling in voting in Israel while pretending you support your biggest middle eastern ally. I suppose that's his one biggest fault. Don't pretend you care about Israel and then try to sway their votes because it makes you look like a jackass. I don't even know what to make of the Cuban situation. The cubans here and there think its amusing from what I understand. Obama kinda reminds me of Californians. He does thinks differently for difference sake because in his mind, any kind of change equates to progress (it doesn't). I don't really think he's incompetent but I just think he's completely out of his element.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
"Ahoska has a ton to offer, of course. [b]She is, to be honest, far better-trained than Kanan. She is a better lightsaber fighter than Kanan. There’s no doubt. She had a better teacher than Kanan, who was more fight combat-oriented than Anakin. So, she definitely could, if she wanted to, give Ezra a great deal of knowledge. But I would think that she’s very reluctant to do so because Ezra’s not her student. He’s Kanan’s student, and also Kanan is training Ezra on the path of the Jedi. And I think the important thing to wonder about, with Ahsoka is, when you get down to it, is knowing where she last was leaving the Order. There should be a lot of questions around, “Well, does that mean Ahsoka’s a Jedi now, or not?” What does that mean? Would she follow, per se, the path of the Jedi as laid out by the Order of the Jedi Knights? Or, is there some other teaching and learning in the ways of the Force that she is now following that’s different?" -- Dave Filoni

http://nerdist.com/star-wars-rebels-executive-producer-dave-filoni-discusses-season-1-and-whats-ahead/ [/B]

This is possibly the only thing that could have made me want to watch Rebels

The whole interview itself or the Ahsoka part?

Hey guys try to translate this :
J'en conclus que vous n'avez que faire de tout ce que je vous ai donné.
And no.. Google translate won't save your ass !!!

Hillary's running. This is going to be a fun election.

The Republicans will win, then torment the country for 8 years.. Then the Democrats will do the same. The cycle won't stop until our robot overlords overthrow us or there's an alien invasion.

Maybe someone will vote for a third party?

Usually third parties get like 1 or 2% of the vote in elections.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe someone will vote for a third party?
YouTube video

Am I the only one who finds it weird that Obama is more concerned with establishing a relationship with a dictator than maintaining a relationship with his biggest ally? Hmmm